Out of interest - has the club done any research on who many existing ST holders would continue to be ST holders if the club were to move to - say Barnsley ? If this is the proposed location then the club could pick up a few more supporters but I would imagine this would be very few in the first season.

No

I don't think that they want to show their hand yet as it may affect negotiations with the BOI, although there is a massive risk of losing further fans if we end up playing somewhere which is difficult for fans to travel to.

How many options the club have is unknown and maybe there are different choices depending on whether we are in SL or the Championship.

Maybe we could put a bid in for Wheldon Road, when you lot move house !

That would be a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire.

seriously though i noticed on some other threads that some give the excuse for non attendance at Belle Vue "because its a dump of a ground". I may be a minority but I don't think I've ever taken into consideration the condition of a ground when deciding whether to attend be it Wakey Cas or any other.

Well newgroundb4wakey that makes 2 of us who don't take into account the ground when going to games infact I find some of the new grounds have no soul compared with the old ones its the rugby I go to watch.Yes as a fan of many years I would love for us to stay at Belle Vue but if its not to be then so be it.

So has Cas Chiss mate but honestly how much of an inconvenience is any ground? Once the game has kicked off most proper fans will spend 90% of the time watching the action and not the surroundings. I tend to spend the other 10% of the time looking down at my feet in times when either the team or the fans are embarrassing me. If there are refreshments available (I accept we will always have to pay a bit above the odds) and toilets, no matter how basic I'm happy. Unless we lose of course and then I blame it all on the ground being a dump.

While I agree with the above two posts (I am not interested either in the stadium facilities and just go to watch the game), I don't think the issue is with supporters like ourselves, but its more to do with trying to attract new fans to the game.

Trying to get new families watching the sport in becoming virtually impossible.

You go in the Wheldon Road end or Princess Street of our ground on a match day and you will maybe 20+ young kids who cannot see above the railing so they take a box or a stool to stand on. We've all seen it. In the modern day sporting arena this is not acceptable - we need all seater family area's.

There was a letter in last weeks league weekly from a Saints fans complaining about Cas Tigers having a smoking area and he would'nt be going again.

The issue last year with taking a bottle of pop into the ground at Belle Vue is another case.

I'm convinced it's small but important things like this that stop some people from attending games anymore. Time to move forward.

I'm afraid it is ridiculous to blame fans for not turning up with the performances we have seen. Do you REALLY expect people to part with 20 quid plus and spend half their valuable Sunday to watch a completely uncompetitive team, half of whom do not look like they are giving 100%? We are in an economic downturn if you hadn't noticed. Cash is precious and people's free time is always precious. I'm afraid the rot started to set in in terms of club mismanagement whilst Glover was in charge and the decision to get rid of John Kear has seen us a completely uncompetitive side for all bar the end of Agar's 1st season with the famous 7 match run that took us to the play offs. The rest of the last 3 years or so, we have been a pretty shabby outfit and nothing like Kear's teams who generally gave a showing even in defeat. The Ground fiasco has seriously demoralised many fans, me included. I have not attended much this year; after a few abysmal efforts I couldn't justify it to myself when I work hard all week, to watch the dross dished up. I will attend for the middle 8's. It is the last ditch effort. I was more optimistic but after today, I don't know now. I pay my 1973 to support them but please don't lecture me or anyone else on non-attendance. Enough has been enough for me and for many. The student pass withdrawal didn't help either as I used to bring my daughter, so that helped to have a double whammy effect. Once again mismanagement. Look to those who run the club, not the fans who rightly have had enough

What was it today?

Don't think the attendance was announced today, looked to be more Cas fans than ours

BBC states it was bang on 4,000.

What's the chances of that .

9,000
at Bradford, thats better than either of us manage to average.

Ah! but boxing's a more popular sport

I would imagine the bradfor game drew interest from some of the fans of sl teams not playing today given it was a top of the table clash

As the OP for this subject and after todays game I think I have had a change of mind.
Standing in the North stand with Cas supporters either side it was a total embarrassment seeing the team I have staunchly defended being ripped to pieces yet again and totally humiliated by a very ordinary side. I really do understand why people stay away.
To play as we did for the first 20 -30 minutes and completely capitulate to another hiding is completely beyond my reasoning.
Having said that it is obvious that some players are not up to SL standard. The championship and who knows what beckons.......?