What with all the dodgy deals going on, I’m sure the Government will have enough money to prop up the country again should another lockdown happen again right?

Or will the rest of us have to “retrain”. 4 more years of this bollox.

Agree, airport and foreign travel should have been the first things to shut and if anyone was entering they should be quarantined until clear harsh but needed.

Yep, especially from the early infected areas, China, Italy etc

Quotes from the drivers of all this lunacy. The World Economic Forum.
(global leaders from the United Nations, United Kingdom, United States, International Monetary Fund and multi-national corporations.)

“The lockdown was a great equalizer … we actually started to see that people were acknowledged for what they had in terms of constraints, not only at work but also at home.”

“Normal was a crisis; normal wasn’t working,” said former US secretary of state John Kerry in his opening remarks. “We must not think of it in terms of pushing a button and going back to the way things were. We’re a long way off from being able to go back to any kind of normal.”

Those most excited about that change are actually women, she said. “They have lived with more flexibility than they ever had before.”

What???? No women I know.

“Secondly, we are facing huge unemployment. We know that unemployment is a relational issue - it doesn’t affect everyone the same. It’s going to fall according to race, according to age, according to class, and we have to think differently about that.”

According to the latest Chief Economists Survey, wealth inequality is also likely to rise

"Most respondents to the Chief Economists Survey do not expect jobs coming back in the recovery to be of comparable quality to pre-COVID-19 jobs. There is, further, a risk of reduced access to labour markets for the young, as a result of interrupted and unequal access to schooling and the resulting loss of human capital.

Anyone know what "loss of human capital" means?

I'm sure that a man of your "expertise" can work out the consequences of ICU beds filling up.

If you really want me to explain the consequences, just ask or, ask one of your pandemic denier friends, they'll help you

Compared to a month ago when they weren't. It's not hard to work that one out.
You are very choosy how you use your great enquiring mind.

Looks like we might be heading for a further lockdown.
If only all those smart people who knew better had been wearing masks and washing their hands.
Oh well never mind....

Quote: coco the fullback "][/i]] You'll like this one then... Nope Unfortunately I don't have access to the BBC 24/7 News tapes to produce an edit for you. I can assure you back in March that the majority of people in my office thought they were going to die and cleared off leaving me strandard after listening to the BBCs coverage. I did find an article on the BBC online that mentions in March "the death rate appears to be between 2% and 5%, the WHO said." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51712437

Quote: coco the fullback "][/i]] You'll like this one then... Nope Unfortunately I don't have access to the BBC 24/7 News tapes to produce an edit for you. I can assure you back in March that the majority of people in my office thought they were going to die and cleared off leaving me strandard after listening to the BBCs coverage. I did find an article on the BBC online that mentions in March "the death rate appears to be between 2% and 5%, the WHO said." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51712437

Quote: wrencat1873 "I'm sure that a man of your "expertise" can work out the consequences of ICU beds filling up. If you really want me to explain the consequences, just ask or, ask one of your pandemic denier friends, they'll help you https://www.france24.com/en/20200916-th ... care-homes Disgusting treatment of the elderly to say the least. However to say they've handled it so poorly, had an increase in population of 355,245 from 2015 to 2020, I don't see excess deaths of 3,703 over the five year average being that much of a disaster. If you make the adjustments to the 2015 deaths/change in population you will find the death rate is practically the same as 2020. Applying the Imperial College model used by Prof "lockdown" Ferguson; Sweden should have seen between 42,000 and 85,000 Covid19 deaths by June, reality was about 5,000 confirmed Covid19 related deaths. I'm sorry but based on the actual results in Sweden I don't see the cause for panic that you, the government and media boys would have us believe. Enough to encourage sensible precautions yes, but not to the degree of destroying livelihoods or wanting to take individual freedoms away. I still believe there are people pushing an agenda here under the guise of Covid to change society for their own benefit.

Quote: wrencat1873 "I'm sure that a man of your "expertise" can work out the consequences of ICU beds filling up. If you really want me to explain the consequences, just ask or, ask one of your pandemic denier friends, they'll help you https://www.france24.com/en/20200916-th ... care-homes Disgusting treatment of the elderly to say the least. However to say they've handled it so poorly, had an increase in population of 355,245 from 2015 to 2020, I don't see excess deaths of 3,703 over the five year average being that much of a disaster. If you make the adjustments to the 2015 deaths/change in population you will find the death rate is practically the same as 2020. Applying the Imperial College model used by Prof "lockdown" Ferguson; Sweden should have seen between 42,000 and 85,000 Covid19 deaths by June, reality was about 5,000 confirmed Covid19 related deaths. I'm sorry but based on the actual results in Sweden I don't see the cause for panic that you, the government and media boys would have us believe. Enough to encourage sensible precautions yes, but not to the degree of destroying livelihoods or wanting to take individual freedoms away. I still believe there are people pushing an agenda here under the guise of Covid to change society for their own benefit.

Quote: MatthewTrin "Nope Unfortunately I don't have access to the BBC 24/7 News tapes to produce an edit for you. I can assure you back in March that the majority of people in my office thought they were going to die and cleared off leaving me strandard after listening to the BBCs coverage. I did find an article on the BBC online that mentions in March "the death rate appears to be between 2% and 5%, the WHO said." The link you give shows data from China only during the early phases of the pandemic. It all depends on which 'death rate' you are referring to and these can also spread quite broadly depending on the country and the method of recording data. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality If you scroll down to the table of individual countries, you'll see a broad range of mortality rates, take your pick. So, what is it? death rate = number of deaths from/with covid divided by what? the whole population? the people with positive tests? the people with symptoms? the people who are hospitalised? the people who need ventilation? Currently in the UK there have been 46,000 deaths attributed to the virus, with a population of 67 million that's 0.068%. If you look at cases (990,000) you get 4.6% Also, mortality rates are falling because the medical people are getting more knowledge and experience of the virus and there are some treatments available for severe cases. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/09/21/ ... improving/

Quote: MatthewTrin "Nope Unfortunately I don't have access to the BBC 24/7 News tapes to produce an edit for you. I can assure you back in March that the majority of people in my office thought they were going to die and cleared off leaving me strandard after listening to the BBCs coverage. I did find an article on the BBC online that mentions in March "the death rate appears to be between 2% and 5%, the WHO said." The link you give shows data from China only during the early phases of the pandemic. It all depends on which 'death rate' you are referring to and these can also spread quite broadly depending on the country and the method of recording data. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality If you scroll down to the table of individual countries, you'll see a broad range of mortality rates, take your pick. So, what is it? death rate = number of deaths from/with covid divided by what? the whole population? the people with positive tests? the people with symptoms? the people who are hospitalised? the people who need ventilation? Currently in the UK there have been 46,000 deaths attributed to the virus, with a population of 67 million that's 0.068%. If you look at cases (990,000) you get 4.6% Also, mortality rates are falling because the medical people are getting more knowledge and experience of the virus and there are some treatments available for severe cases. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/09/21/ ... improving/

How can I work it out genius? . What exactly does "filling up" mean can you, with your less than great enquiring mind Put it in context ?
I.e If a large shop has ten customers in and five more turn up is that classed as filling up ?" Maybe it depends on the size of the shop?
Context, Don't just say "filling up". That's what sports commentators say on TV. "The ground is filling up" Turns out by kick off time the grounds half empty.

I suppose your refering to me, big head that I am