If we move to Dewsbury I hate to think just how much hospitality revenue we'll lose!

We currently have the boxes which provide a supporters bar/ restaurant/ around 8 executive suites / 12 executive boxes

Dewsbury do not have anywhere near that capacity!

Its a sad day for many and I think the clubs reached a cross roads. Years of very poor management and I include the present owner have landed us in the position we are in now. I would love for B V to have been owned by the club and for the old girl to receive a total re vamp, I would love to live in a City that values its sporting history but unfortunately I don't. The first nail in the coffin probably took place when Ted convinced members to give him control, then sold the ground for a pipe dream.
Just what are the options, Rent reduction or someone comes up with the money to buy B V.

There is something about Belle Vue that makes it a great ground to visit in my opinion regardless of the facilities. BOI probably wanted Trinity out and Carter knew that the writing was on the wall as well as in the Daily Mail... www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... paign=1490

There is something about Belle Vue that makes it a great ground to visit in my opinion regardless of the facilities. BOI probably wanted Trinity out and Carter knew that the writing was on the wall as well as in the Daily Mail... www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... paign=1490

This.

Possibly the question that no one is asking is does Mr Carter actually want us in Superleague next season?
Maybe he has decided that the level that he is happiest with is championship.

If not why would we be entering into negotiations to share a ground that has absolutely no chance of meeting SL criteria?

Or

Is dewsbury actually plan C , with another option which would meet the criteria (fev ?) as plan B.

The ground pictured in the daily mail article doesn't look like dewsbury!

So the middle 8 home games could be the last at Belle Vue a good marketing tool

Or is this another ploy by MC to force the BOI's hand? A case of look here BOI, we've got somewhere to play and you'll not get your £250,000 a year? What happened to the "can't sell BV till Trinity have somewhere to play" gag?

I wondered that. If giving notice was a tactic to get the BOI to renegotiate rent, what he has done is sensible. It makes his hand stronger to renegotiate the rent.

And what's he supposed to do? Do nothing until New Years Day and then look surprised when someone turns up with some new locks?

The issue is whether it was the right thing to do in giving notice. If it was, the Dewsbury thing is right too, as it is part of the same game of poker.

Having just read our chairman's recent tweet I am afraid he still does not know who the Wakefield supporters are. We have a long history tied up at Belle Vue. We unlike football do not accept change easily so he may believe Dewsbury is a far better ground than Belle Vue but I doubt many supporters would agree.
It may make financial sense now but he fails to understand the impact it will have on the numbers attending because he does not know us with the exception of the optimists on the forum who would even consider Doncaster a viable option.

I'm not sure his tweet says that much. Someone tweeted him and suggested that the Dewsbury ground makes Belle Vue look like the Theatre of Dreams and he responded, 'are you being serious?' He's right, in that regard.

And think it through: if this is about getting the Bank of Ireland to agree a lower rent, he's hardly likely to say, 'don't worry, mate, we're not really leaving'.

You've got to follow a process with this:
1. Can the club survive at Belle Vue with the current rent, crowd levels, and level of investment?
2. If the answer is no, was it wrong to give notice, in the hope that the rent is reduced?
3. If no, it wasn't wrong, do we do nothing in the hope that the bank renegotiates, or do seek an alternative short-term home?
4. If we do nothing, and the bank doesn't give us a lower rent, and looks instead for a buyer, where do we play next year?
5. If we are trying to force a negotiation, what is wrong with making out we have somewhere else to go?
6. If there is no renegotiation, shouldn't we have somewhere else to go?

If you agree with 1 and 2, everything else that follows is logical and sensible.

The only area we would end up better off in is in ground maintenance, which is what is killing us now. The insurance and ultility increases that will come due to having two teams at the ground will be added onto to renti to reflect the extra cost to Dewsbury of us playing there. As for the cost of caterers then we either have to continue to use our own and as such no change or use the ones Dewsbury currently do so pay for the privilage. And the savings made there will be eaten straight up in lost revenue through lower footfall. Can you really see attendances holding up because i can't.

I also can't see why we would spend money (what money?!) improving their ground? We would surley only do that if we were staying long term and if that is the plan then the club will die anyway. So no, it isn't a good thing in my view at all really.

I'm pretty sure it was brinkmanship but the gamble was that the bank would prefer the easy money and take a lower rent option. It was always possible, some would say probable, that they actually want rid of the place and will happily sell it on to a housing developer who can take advantage of the planning permission on it. They will need to have the section 38 condition removed during the upcoming renewal but the hand of any objectors to that has been seriously weakened by us voluntarily giving notice to leave with 18 months left on the lease. And with Newmarket as unlikely as it has ever been the chances are it may get removed. The other option is to sit on the land a couple of years and see if the club withers away and dies playing outside of the city. Its been over a month and the boi haven't been back in touch regarding the offer we made and now someone has put a bid in. I'd say they are pushing for a sale.

What happened to our love in with the new MP for Morley. I thought she would do everything possible to sort out the Newmarket question. It appears to have gone very quiet on this front.