Franchising is always going to turn fans against fans sadly as all fans want the best for their club and the clubs make individual decisions without thinking there's a consequence to themselves, to me it's a bit like 'lets all throw stones in the air and if they do hit someone's head on their way back down I hope it's not mine'

At the end of the day I'll worry that Crusaders make it through as much as you will worry that Wakey will, all the best for the future whatever it holds.

thanks for that, that's made me feel better

Assuming you're not a director of Crusaders, then I don't see what relevance the club's financial state has to you? I don't know what Crusaders or Wakefield's income or business model is like and I really don't care, that's a matter for the people in charge. If the club can't sustain themselves then they will go bust, and if they can sustain themselves then they will carry on. Getting would up about it won't achieve anything. All clubs need to be looking to improve attendances and I've never once suggested Crusaders crowd was acceptable. With 100+ years and the supposed tradition of sport in the area, 5,000 is not acceptable for Wakefield either. Wakefield fans are in no position to be smug about anything.

This quote is bang on the money. Let us get our own house in order.

The fact that you don't care about wether or not you have a business plan is indicative of your smugness not mine,safe in the knowledge that you are protected.
Home attendences- nowhere near good enough to sustain the club
Away attendences- add no value to home club, who have still got to run their business and are losing income everytime such a club visits.
The whole thing about Crusaders is that because they have been fast tracked into SL they have had no time to grow their fan base, and that is their achilles heel, both to the business and in the eyes of many RL fans and certainly of many RL fans at threatened clubs whose overall performance is better 100% than Crusaders.
You cannot justify one argument based on any kind of logical thought where Crusaders are a better option than any other SL side and I could probably argue that some NL1 sides are a better bet than Crusaders.
I would like to know what your equation is for working out, time existed related to attendance, as I'm sure 99.9% of clubs would fail it?

Not sure what facts you are dealing in as there were 6 Welsh-born players in the 19 man squad for Saturday's game.'"

Maybe but only 3 played(Jordan James is English born).

But will these 3 get a game once the other overseas players arrive???'"

For the umpteenth time, I am not a Crusaders fan. The club obviously has a business plan of some sort, I personally have no interest in it because it doesn't concern me at all, just as it doesn't concern you. If the home attendances aren't good enough to survive then the club will go bust, I don't understand why you are getting so wound up about the fact that they are not. The club weren't 'fast tracked', they were in the NL1 final in the year that they were promoted and so would have gone up even with automatic promotion and relegation. The club that year also had one of the highest average crowds in that league, they averaged more than Leigh. I would like to know how you feel Wakefield are performing '100% better' than Crusaders. Last year Wakefield's average crowd was only 1,300 higher than Crusaders' even with the games in Neath included. The club is far weaker on the field, has far poorer facilities and certainly are not in a stronger position financially. You could not argue that any 'NL1' clubs are better than Crusaders, because it's clear that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and are desperately looking for someone else to blame for the failure of your club. And I'll state it again in case you missed itMaybe but only 3 played(Jordan James is English born).

But will these 3 get a game once the other overseas players arrive???'"

= argument won

I agree with everything that you say but we all know the Crusaders will be in SL next season.

Surely we are in a financial better position than Crusaders. We don't owe anyone any cash now. You owe the RFL 700k!