consolidate (look it up).

you guys just go back on what you say you have no balls : -

HERE IS THE QUESTION DO YOU THINK WE WILL BEAT 5TH NEXT YEAR ?? Put all the crap what you sent me i.e. us improving to the test . YOU CANT ANSWER BECUASE I DONT THINK WE WILL BEAT 5TH . NGB4C wins another argument has the finishing position is the ultimate final argument on us improving.

No we wont finish 4th or 5th.

This year we have performed very well, however other clubs have underperformed bradford, warrington, catalans, you need to look at the BIGGER picture.

jeez..you take the biscuit when it comes to intelligence don't you
have you listened to jk's thoughts on this year?
with a so called supporter like you we don't need cas trolls do we ?

take it from your footballer like earnings that you were over in france supporting the team weren't you !

ha ha ha .. if we keep atkins and snitch build on our signings allready I think we would finish 4th . We deserve our position this year we have been awesome at times and showed great team spirit. With the big changes in our squad for next year do you think our spirit will be has good. Team spirit has been a massive part of our success this year.

Get real. With your 40k I would have thought you would have understood that "improvement" is more than just getting to the next position up in the league.

If next year will the club have improved if:
the finances look better
they have more youth development
they win the challenge cup
and finish 7th?

and if Leeds get top.....are they not capable of improvement because of their position?

Hopefully the stadium will have moved forward in great strides .

My grandad always advised me not to wager with an idiot.
For that reason, I won't.

So Warrington (who probably already spend the full cap) bring in 3 new players and don't get rid of anybody? How do you think they are going to do that then? Just cos' they haven't announced any departures yet doesn't mean they won't.
Just like every other team will sign some and have to lose some to make room.

As for us improving, you can't say with any certainty that we won't anymore than I can say we will, unless you can predict the future in which case you could boost your paltry wage with a lottery win.

Heres a question for you NGB4C

If we paid the extra money to the players leaving to keep them and didn't have the money from the Atkins transfer, would we maintain a 5th or 6th position next year with the squad we currently have and very limited funds to improve it?

I would wager that a 2nd season with the squad we have now would not prove as successful as this one has. The simple reasons are :

1) the squad would already be down on numbers of experienced players compared to the start of this season
2) some players who have performed towards their peak this year may not have been able to reach those levels of performance again next year
3) as has already been said other teams will improve

JK has so far signed 4 players - all of whom are top quality signings, and ones which we would not have been able to make if we handed out large contract increases to some of the players who are leaving.

I am all for having as many British players in the team as possible, but when they are just not available at the right levels of quality for the right money, then I have no problems with overseas players who fit in to these criteria been signed

For the benefit of you know who...

One year team Thumper had a squad of 25 Bunnies who each earned an average of 50 chocolate bars - costing the club 1,250 bars.

They had a good season in the rough and tumbly world of rigby luger. At the end of the season 15 of the players said 'because we've played nicely, can we have 10 more chocolate bars each'. But the nasty Mister that owned the club said 'but we've only collected 1,200 bars this year, how will we be able to give you that?'

Then one night, in a dream, the nasty Mister had an idea. 'If I just get 20 bunnies next year I could give them 60 bars each and, if I let one of my faster bunnies go to Team Bam Bam, and they give me 150 chocolate bars, then I can also make up for the 50 bars we are missing this year and still have 100 bars which we could use to bring in 8 junior Bunnies into team Thumper - and we get some new, bigger, better Bunnies and be able to give the other Bunnies the 10 extra bars they have so well earned this year.

And so the Nasty Mister went to work and they all lived happily ever after!

Is there a simpolified version cos the maths is way too tricky for me