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| Hmm, so my take on this is we have some players who are very good at many things but have flaws in their game.....which is why they are playing championship
Lino is an excellent kicker. Both short long and high. As well as goal kicking. His defense as a half back is very important and his enthusiasm gives the team a lift. And he's fast. He stayed with Wakmsley when he broke away.
His flaw is his pass selection - which irritates me, but is coachable. This season needs to be all about that.
Hood is an extremely tough defender. He absolutely hurts people in the tackle. His passing is good and accurate.
His flaw is he hasn't got the speed any more. That can't be coached.
Gale is a proven talent and he's got himself very fit for this season. He's often the first to his own kicks.
Flaw is age, and therefore resilience. Shouldn't go to SL next year.
Thornley plays right centre. You need to be a good defender as the attacks predominantly come down your channel.
He does that and carries the ball well from deep.
Flaw doesn't really have the attacking flair, though maybe that's a relationship with Lino that will make the difference.
Not sure he's our guy for SL
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| Quote alegend="alegend"We have 3 good attacking player's in the team at present Jowitt,Walmsley and Lino. Toulouse new this gave them no room.As an attacking force Gale and Hood are way past there best ,Thornley is none existent . Pratt looks like he could make it to S L dispite bombing a try chasing a great kick across the French line in the first half. Think Lino gets a lot of unfair stick on here and out plays Gale most week, Some of the high kicks Lino did in the second half were pinning the French teams on there line. With out Gale in the team last week Lino stepped up and ran the second half Powells words not mine with a inexperience spine I Would give Kay more time at 9 and get Rocky here on loan from Wigan By the way the food in hospitality was very good'"
Lino is not a good attacking player that’s the point He was a few years back and still could be, but not now. He isn’t a patch on Gale who’s not the player he used to be. Watch the game, he rarely creates anything, but worse still he doesn’t create much for himself either.
as for Powells comments, I don’t read into them what you di. What he’s saying is that’s what he wants more of, but he didn’t get it. You can’t keep blaming Gale and Miller for his failures he’s had four years now!,
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| Quote alegend="alegend"We have 3 good attacking player's in the team at present Jowitt,Walmsley and Lino. Toulouse new this gave them no room.As an attacking force Gale and Hood are way past there best ,Thornley is none existent . Pratt looks like he could make it to S L dispite bombing a try chasing a great kick across the French line in the first half. Think Lino gets a lot of unfair stick on here and out plays Gale most week, Some of the high kicks Lino did in the second half were pinning the French teams on there line. With out Gale in the team last week Lino stepped up and ran the second half Powells words not mine with a inexperience spine I Would give Kay more time at 9 and get Rocky here on loan from Wigan By the way the food in hospitality was very good'"
Lino is not a good attacking player that’s the point He was a few years back and still could be, but not now. He isn’t a patch on Gale who’s not the player he used to be. Watch the game, he rarely creates anything, but worse still he doesn’t create much for himself either.
as for Powells comments, I don’t read into them what you di. What he’s saying is that’s what he wants more of, but he didn’t get it. You can’t keep blaming Gale and Miller for his failures he’s had four years now!,
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"Hmm, so my take on this is we have some players who are very good at many things but have flaws in their game.....which is why they are playing championship
Lino is an excellent kicker. Both short long and high. As well as goal kicking. His defense as a half back is very important and his enthusiasm gives the team a lift. And he's fast. He stayed with Wakmsley when he broke away.
His flaw is his pass selection - which irritates me, but is coachable. This season needs to be all about that.
Hood is an extremely tough defender. He absolutely hurts people in the tackle. His passing is good and accurate.
His flaw is he hasn't got the speed any more. That can't be coached.
Gale is a proven talent and he's got himself very fit for this season. He's often the first to his own kicks.
Flaw is age, and therefore resilience. Shouldn't go to SL next year.
Thornley plays right centre. You need to be a good defender as the attacks predominantly come down your channel.
He does that and carries the ball well from deep.
Flaw doesn't really have the attacking flair, though maybe that's a relationship with Lino that will make the difference.
Not sure he's our guy for SL'"
A more balanced post. Lino is potentially a great player, it just needs to be more consistent, in fact if anything I think he tries to hard at times.
Truth is we are picking turds here, we are unbeaten, win most games easily, so what’s the issue. any other set of fans would be delirious.
It’s a new team and in truth a very young one by championship standards, it will take time.
If you want an idea of what’s possible look at the Wigan game. I know it was a friendly, and they were not full strength, but imo if it had gone the full 80 we’d have thrashed them. That was the best rugby we’ve played all year. They will click soon enough.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"A more balanced post. Lino is potentially a great player, it just needs to be more consistent, in fact if anything I think he tries to hard at times.
Truth is we are picking turds here, we are unbeaten, win most games easily, so what’s the issue. any other set of fans would be delirious.
It’s a new team and in truth a very young one by championship standards, it will take time.
If you want an idea of what’s possible look at the Wigan game. I know it was a friendly, and they were not full strength, but imo if it had gone the full 80 we’d have thrashed them. That was the best rugby we’ve played all year. They will click soon enough.'"
Whilst only a friendly I liked what I saw, the attack was slick, everyone knew there role, and Lino and Gale were nowhere to be seen.
Sheffield have shown they can rack up a big score, I don't think we'll have the luxury of knowing we can limit the opposition to two tries or so on Friday so the attack needs to be on it.
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| Quote Dr Dreadnought="Dr Dreadnought"Coming down on top of Thaler would've been a softer landing. There's plenty of padding there these days'"
Even so, there would still only be one winner.... 
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| Quote vastman="vastman"A more balanced post. Lino is potentially a great player, it just needs to be more consistent, in fact if anything I think he tries to hard at times.
Truth is we are picking turds here, we are unbeaten, win most games easily, so what’s the issue. any other set of fans would be delirious.
It’s a new team and in truth a very young one by championship standards, it will take time.
If you want an idea of what’s possible look at the Wigan game. I know it was a friendly, and they were not full strength, but imo if it had gone the full 80 we’d have thrashed them. That was the best rugby we’ve played all year. They will click soon enough.'"
I don’t agree re Lino.
He’s an average to poor organiser doesn’t offer much in regards strike although admittedly he does have his moments.
On the plus side he’s got a decent kicking game and is a reasonable defender.
He’s not a new signing he’s been with us since 2021 and he’s 30 years old.
The fact of the matter is he’s been displaced as the key halfback by 35 year old Luke Gale whose best days are far behind him.
He’s not even standing out at Championship level behind a generally dominant pack. That to me does not point towards him being a potentially great player.
Rightly or wrongly we have to have an eye on next year and target signings for that early. Gale is will be retiring, Russell coming in but I feel we need another half preferably a runner to compliment Russell who is an organising half.
Lino is fine for this year but moving forward he probably needs to start next season as our back up half or at another club if we are to meet the ambitions of our new owners and push for mid table SL in 2025.
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| When we signed Lino we were told he would take over the organising half that would allow Miller to play his natural game.
When Miller left we were told Lino would take over the organising and being the main half back would suit his natural game.
When Gale joined we were told he would take over the organising which would free Lino to play his natural game.
He's in his fourth season now and I still don't know what his natural game is.
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| Quote imwakefieldtillidie="imwakefieldtillidie"When we signed Lino we were told he would take over the organising half that would allow Miller to play his natural game.
When Miller left we were told Lino would take over the organising and being the main half back would suit his natural game.
When Gale joined we were told he would take over the organising which would free Lino to play his natural game.
He's in his fourth season now and I still don't know what his natural game is.'"
None of us really do. He’s not really a runner or an organising half. He’s kind of in between both without being great on either but has the occasional flash play or shocker play. As I say consistency seems to be something he struggles with. For this level though he is pretty good.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"None of us really do. He’s not really a runner or an organising half. He’s kind of in between both without being great on either but has the occasional flash play or shocker play. As I say consistency seems to be something he struggles with. For this level though he is pretty good.'"
Mentioned this a few times over the years.
In the games I saw him play prior to him joining Trinity he played in the free role was direct and very dynamic he had a good kicking game but he wasn’t an organiser.
I remember being reading the headline in the Wakey express when he signed proclaiming him to be the next organising half from the club. I think a big part of this club spin was the issues we had since Finn and Williams left we were unable to replace those 2 natural organisers.
I think unfortunately we tried to turn Lino into that organiser which took him away from his natural style and now we have a player that lost the natural instinct to attack (although he does occasionally show glimpses) and who never took to the organising role we brought him in to do.
We’ve effectively diluted him to what we have now which is generally a pretty average half who occasionally shows flashes of his natural ability that is no longer his natural game.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Mentioned this a few times over the years.
In the games I saw him play prior to him joining Trinity he played in the free role was direct and very dynamic he had a good kicking game but he wasn’t an organiser.
I remember being reading the headline in the Wakey express when he signed proclaiming him to be the next organising half from the club. I think a big part of this club spin was the issues we had since Finn and Williams left we were unable to replace those 2 natural organisers.
I think unfortunately we tried to turn Lino into that organiser which took him away from his natural style and now we have a player that lost the natural instinct to attack (although he does occasionally show glimpses) and who never took to the organising role we brought him in to do.
We’ve effectively diluted him to what we have now which is generally a pretty average half who occasionally shows flashes of his natural ability that is no longer his natural game.'"
Very well said. I think he’s fairly well liked as you can see he’s full of bags of effort on the pitch. Absolutely happy for him to play and will cheer him as frustrating as it can be sometimes.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"Very well said. I think he’s fairly well liked as you can see he’s full of bags of effort on the pitch. Absolutely happy for him to play and will cheer him as frustrating as it can be sometimes.'"
Agree he seems well liked within the club and a really nice guy.
Digging a bit deeper regards his playing style at the Warriors he was back up to Tommy Leului (organiser) & Shaun Johnson (at that time the strike runner) and then at Newcastle Knights he was back up to Pierce (Organiser) and Pongia (strike half at the time).
The reality is he got opportunities when any of these lads were injured so had to cover both roles at times depending on who was missing. As I said earlier he looked more comfortable as the dynamic runner but probably never got a chance to develop his own style because of what he was being asked to do prior to his time with us too.
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