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| Quote: unknownlegend "Its really difficult to try and explain how most of us feel about Richard Agar, don't think many of us wish him ill. I'll ask you this and you tell me how you would feel
We've had far worse to contend with than that and as a result have moaned probably a damned sight more, that's natural of course.
I think the bottom line with many FC fans is that they still think that they support a team that should be at the top, and that sadly is not reality.
To be a top four side, which IMO is what constitutes a big club, you have to recruit better, turn over more income (or have a big benefactor) and have more luck than one or more of the current top four, and that is a big undertaking and could take years.
IMO hull are in the middle ground, anywhere from fifth to tenth and take it from a wakey fan, that is better than what we usually look forward to, I would put us in the bottom group ninth to fourteenth.
To put all your problems at the feet of the coach and then to continue to blame him is plain wrong, it's not a new coach that's needed it's a grasp of reality.
He's had a fair crack of the whip I agree, but so had every other coach that failed to make Hull FC all conquering, however few have been denegrated so much as Agar.
Now the new man is at the helm, the new reality is to accept what you had under Agar, that to me is madness baring in mind the vilification he received, and shows many FC fans up to be little more than brainless.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Whatever happens, happens but i can safely say we'll never be merged/hybrid club, how about you.'"
Neither have we ever merged or been a hybrid can Hull say this or is Gatehull Sharks too distant a memory? |
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| Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "Neither have we ever merged or been a hybrid can Hull say this or is Gatehull Sharks too distant a memory?'"
Agars fault i heard  |
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| Quote: unknownlegend "Its really difficult to try and explain how most of us feel about Richard Agar, don't think many of us wish him ill. I'll ask you this and you tell me how you would feel
When fans come on here and offer views/opinions like you have i think most fans find it a refreshing change from those who cannot put down the poison pens they hold.
Are you 100% happy that Richard bought and chose the teams he put out, or did he have one hand up his back from the previous mob, lets face it Kear was the evil one not too long ago.
Said at the time i did not want Agar at Wakey but i will support him and the team while he's here.
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| Quote: bren2k "You remind me of that Fast Show character - the office joker who thought he was hilarious; Colin Hunt?'"
Don`t know him mate.The sad thing is I aint joking.One more season of your beloved leader and I think my loyalty would have been stretched.Anyhow,enough of this,he is your problem now. |
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "And not be ripped of at the turnstyles, sounds more that ok to me.
Whatever happens, happens but i can safely say we'll never be merged/hybrid club, how about you.'"
Yep,Hull and Gateshead merged,a known fact.Luckily though the club is called Hull F.C.,that will do quite nicely thank you. |
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| Quote: barton baird "Anyhow,enough of this,he is your problem now.'"
Precisely what we've been saying for months; glad we're finally on the same sheet.
I look forward to a rest from your 'hilarious' one-liners about Agar. |
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| Quote: barton baird "Yep,Hull and Gateshead merged,a known fact.Luckily though the club is called Hull F.C.,that will do quite nicely thank you.'"
Luckily for you, not so lucky for Gateshead though.
Anyway its only aimed at that other bitter FC fan |
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Hope this is ok with you mods if not please remove.
I have two spare tickets for the Hull game, anybody want them at £20 each. First to pm me with details secures, buyer can collect (sandal area) or I will be at the ground on sunday for the coach at 12.15. SOLD
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| Quote: wakeytrin "Think you've got that wrong, not a lot better, 1 point better.'"
My post was tongue in cheek, but on a serious note i have seen 4 years of Agar's dross to know what i am talking about. |
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| Quote: kinleycat "We've had far worse to contend with than that and as a result have moaned probably a damned sight more, that's natural of course.
I think the bottom line with many FC fans is that they still think that they support a team that should be at the top, and that sadly is not reality.
To be a top four side, which IMO is what constitutes a big club, you have to recruit better, turn over more income (or have a big benefactor) and have more luck than one or more of the current top four, and that is a big undertaking and could take years.
IMO hull are in the middle ground, anywhere from fifth to tenth and take it from a wakey fan, that is better than what we usually look forward to, I would put us in the bottom group ninth to fourteenth.
To put all your problems at the feet of the coach and then to continue to blame him is plain wrong, it's not a new coach that's needed it's a grasp of reality.
He's had a fair crack of the whip I agree, but so had every other coach that failed to make Hull FC all conquering, however few have been denegrated so much as Agar.
Now the new man is at the helm, the new reality is to accept what you had under Agar, that to me is madness baring in mind the vilification he received, and shows many FC fans up to be little more than brainless.'"
Really didn't want to get into this Agar discussion, but we have one of the highest turnovers in SL, only Leeds and Wigan get more, 3rd highest average crowd and now a pretty wealthy owner (in RL terms). We should be challenging for the top 4. Agar recruited pretty well in his time at Hull, his main plus as a Hull coach, unfortunately he took us backwards and offset our youth policy in his term at Hull.
His wasn't the main reason that Hull have underachieved though, that is down to our previous board.
As for the game Sunday, not confident at all. |
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| Quote: Dave K. "Really didn't want to get into this Agar discussion, but we have one of the highest turnovers in SL, only Leeds and Wigan get more, 3rd highest average crowd and now a pretty wealthy owner (in RL terms). We should be challenging for the top 4. Agar recruited pretty well in his time at Hull, his main plus as a Hull coach, unfortunately he took us backwards and offset our youth policy in his term at Hull.
His wasn't the main reason that Hull have underachieved though, that is down to our previous board.
As for the game Sunday, not confident at all.'"
Dave, thats the point that seems lost with some FC fans who come on here and preach about Agar, thank god for this reasoned post. |
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Luckily for you, not so lucky for Gateshead though.
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Yeah they don't do bad at FC a cool million handed over and a stadium handed to them on a plate. Add to this the way they dominated SL until Agar came along and you can see why they hate/blame him so much. I'm sure normal service will be resumed now they have rid themselves of the anti christ.  |
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| Back to reality, pre game drinking, Walton Street Club (opposite the car park), friendly, good cheap beer, easy to get served. See you all in there!  |
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| Quote: Dave K. "Really didn't want to get into this Agar discussion, but we have one of the highest turnovers in SL, only Leeds and Wigan get more, 3rd highest average crowd and now a pretty wealthy owner (in RL terms). We should be challenging for the top 4. Agar recruited pretty well in his time at Hull, his main plus as a Hull coach, unfortunately he took us backwards and offset our youth policy in his term at Hull.
His wasn't the main reason that Hull have underachieved though, that is down to our previous board.
As for the game Sunday, not confident at all.'"
1) You need luck though as well and the top four has been strengthened with the emergence of Warrington in that period, their luck was the Bulls demise, but they had the other elements as well.
2) Even more reason for Hull to excel now he's gone and Gentle to capitalise.
If we take our opportunities we'll give you a game, if we dont it will be the same as the last two games, and we will be beat in the second half.
Just for Agars and this Forum's sake i hope we win and convincingly just to shut up the FC boo boys!!! |
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