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Quote: Fully "How is that devious?

I think that there are better things to be prioritising taxes on right at this minute. Is Ponte A+E not an issue? Are public transport stations, for the most part, not a bit of a joke and in dire need of improvement? Are the roads not a state? They certainly are where I've been and the amount of potholes are becoming ridiculous. Sorry but now you're just being silly to portray me in a bad light. And this could really be classified as harassment.

As I've already mentioned anyway, that is the responsibility of WDCT/whoever owns it.'"


Your motives are clear when you say things like 'I expect all Cas fans to do something about it'. Why are you only calling for Cas fans to oppose this?

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Quote: Fully "How is that devious?

I think that there are better things to be prioritising taxes on right at this minute, just as I wouldn't think it would be right if you lot were paying in any way more than what is already agreed for the Cas stadium. Is Ponte A+E not an issue? Are public transport stations, for the most part, not a bit of a joke and in dire need of improvement? Are the roads not a state? They certainly are where I've been and the amount of potholes are becoming ridiculous. Sorry but now you're just being silly to portray me in a bad light. And this could really be classified as harassment.

As I've already mentioned anyway, that is the responsibility of WDCT/whoever owns it (and this is something I've said on one of the other threads on the Cas RLFans page in the last few days too and was agreed with by I_A). Anyway, back on topic, I would suggest.'"

If your called hudds tiger why do you pay your council tax to Wakefield council, do you work anyway, why are WMDC paying for maintenance on Newmarket community stadium I must have missed that bit

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Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "He likes to portray himself as the voice of reason, but (if it is the same person) in reality he seems quite devious.'"


What he is saying is that the Wakefield rate payers should not pay for maintenance of the stadium part of the development and I would think that the Wakey ratepayers would agree. How is that devious?

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "If your called hudds tiger why do you pay your council tax to Wakefield council, do you work anyway, why are WMDC paying for maintenance on Newmarket community stadium I must have missed that bit'"


I used to live in Huddersfield.

They're not, that's why I said they're not. I then went on to say if they did I wouldn't be happy and I would expect all Cas fans to be the same. I then went on to list a number of things in the local area (that affect Cas fans) that needed prioritising. I aimed it at Cas fans as it's a Cas forum although I would say that to anyone right now, with WMDC having to cut back like all councils, stadia are probably not their priority. Hope that all helps and ends this little facade that you've got going.

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Quote: bigalf "What he is saying is that the Wakefield rate payers should not pay for maintenance of the stadium part of the development and I would think that the Wakey ratepayers would agree. How is that devious?'"


He doesn't say Wakefield rate payers, he specifically says 'Cas fans'.

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Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "He doesn't say Wakefield rate payers, he specifically says 'Cas fans'.'"


Because it's a Cas forum aimed at Cas fans, not Wakefield ratepayers.

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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall" "I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg



Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY " why are WMDC paying for maintenance on Newmarket community stadium I must have missed that bit'"


They are not.

The quote was lifted from the Casforum when he was answering a question on there when someone suggested that may be the case.

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Quote: Fully "Because it's a Cas forum aimed at Cas fans, not Wakefield ratepayers.'"


Well I live in Wakefield and I'm happy if my taxes help with the new stadium. Put whatever spin on it you want, but you're itching for Newmarket to fail.

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Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Well I live in Wakefield and I'm happy if my taxes help with the new stadium. Put whatever spin on it you want, but you're itching for Newmarket to fail.'"


Exactly. So if I billeted on here, as WMDC ratepayers, you'd have a good old whinge about that. Therefore, that's why I aimed it at Cas fans on a Cas forum.

This has nothing to do with Newmarket failing. IIRC, I was actually talking about upkeep of a Newmarket Stadium, which if I'm right implies it will be built.

Many of my friends are out of work, I believe like many others that Ponte hospital needs sorting out and I use public transport to and from work every day of the week. I also drive a lot and use public roads. These are all priorities when it comes to the Council Tax being spent in the local area. I'd have thought you would have agreed?

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how embarrassing this becoming to the cas fans that are coming on here that are clawing on in despair in the hopes that it will be denied c020.gif

I can wait a few more days icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Please don't think we're all like that snowie. I for one am sick and tired of the whole stadium(s) thing and the tactics used by the RFL to erode any sense of respect between fans is taking the game down a road I don't want to be a part of.

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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall" "I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg



Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "Please don't think we're all like that snowie. I for one am sick and tired of the whole stadium(s) thing and the tactics used by the RFL to erode any sense of respect between fans is taking the game down a road I don't want to be a part of.'"


I agree Steady, but this little "spat" was started by taking a quote from a different forum completely out of context to have a dig at a certain poster and that needs to be pointed out.

Rant over!

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Quote: Fully "Exactly. So if I billeted on here, as WMDC ratepayers, you'd have a good old whinge about that. Therefore, that's why I aimed it at Cas fans on a Cas forum.

This has nothing to do with Newmarket failing. IIRC, I was actually talking about upkeep of a Newmarket Stadium, which if I'm right implies it will be built.

Many of my friends are out of work, I believe like many others that Ponte hospital needs sorting out and I use public transport to and from work every day of the week. I also drive a lot and use public roads. These are all priorities when it comes to the Council Tax being spent in the local area. I'd have thought you would have agreed?'"


Well you can put your simple mind at ease - the new jobs (and hence tax) and council tax that will be paid by the industrial unit occupiers, will more than cover any maintenance costs of the stadium. Why not drop this transparent "won't somebody think of the children" facade and just admit that you believe that Wakefield gaining a new stadium will be to the detriment of Cas? There's no shame in that, but there's plenty in pursuing this bizarre "Jekyll and Hyde" routine that you do so badly.

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Quote: TrinityIHC "Well you can put your simple mind at ease - the new jobs (and hence tax) and council tax that will be paid by the industrial unit occupiers, will more than cover any maintenance costs of the stadium. Why not drop this transparent "won't somebody think of the children" facade and just admit that you believe that Wakefield gaining a new stadium will be to the detriment of Cas? There's no shame in that, but there's plenty in pursuing this bizarre "Jekyll and Hyde" routine that you do so badly.'"


Post of the day!

Got to love the desperation of Fully and co, playing the 'council tax' card and trying to suggest that the provision of first class sporting facilities for the City shouldn't be a priority; in case you missed it over there in the small town in Wakefield, we're facing a national public health crisis and our City has been outed as having a chronic shortage of sports facilities.

It's painfully clear that you like to obfuscate, but you are very aware that unlike Castelford's plans, the NM development is for a Community Stadium and will include pitches and training facilities for youth and amateur teams, as well as a hub for Wakefield College, which will strengthen it's bid to become a University. Your increasingly desperate naysaying of the scheme is at best pathetically parochial and at worst, shows a startling lack of care for the wider benefits the development will provide to the whole district.

People like you are the reason everyone laughs at Cas; shame on you Fully, and your small-town cronies.

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[sizeD+1[/size... and counting Hoping to get a decision before the end of the coaching staff, but if not I think I'll move on to the dolls rather than the reserves or academy, at least that will be some light relief.

Re the council paying for upkeep: they don't have any money, so they can't (where have I heard that phrase before?).

If it were not for the economic situation though, I don't see any issue with the council paying for the maintenance of the much needed community sports facilities (minus the stadium) as they should be responsible for them, not only their upkeep but also their construction, so WMDC will do rather well out of the deal.

The best laugh was the poster somewhere who highlighted the potential increase in childhood asthma in the area due to the increased traffic at the site. Next to 6 lanes of one of the busiest motorways in Britain? not sure of the significance.

On the other aspect of rental cost. How much of the capital for the build will the stadium trust be expected to pay back?

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