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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "What worries me most about the departure is that according to a journo the showdown meeting was at Webster's request. Good on him for falling on his sword, but why it became his option, not the club's, is beyond me. He should have gone a few weeks ago.
I hope the JK rumours are true. Stuart Dickens should only be for this week surely, and I dread to think we are going down the Tony Smith, Webster route again, in that we just promote the assistant of the previously-failing coach.'"
haha Dickens for this week to get us through the Widnes game, just in time for "No fear, it's only Kear" against the old enemy at Magic weekend.
Not convinced it will be Kear, surely he is under contract at Batley and if we couldn't afford to sack Webster, can we afford to pay compo for Kear??
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| Love this forum after Agar went & Webster took over and won games he was the messiah. Now he is the devil & should never have become coach.
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| Quote: Brian Briggs Ghost "Love this forum after Agar went & Webster took over and won games he was the messiah. Now he is the devil & should never have become coach.'"
And.... where does this forum differ from any other ?
Liverpool forums made Raheem Sterling out to be ace and the next big thing only 18 months ago, now they are ready to burn him on bonfire night as the guy.
People's opinions change all the time in the sporting world as it goes with performances and results. When you win games, you are held in high regard by fans as their team is doing well but when the results don't go to plan then your head quickly comes on the chopping block.
This forum and the users on it are no different to any other on here or the World Wide Web.
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| Quote: Brian Briggs Ghost "Love this forum after Agar went & Webster took over and won games he was the messiah. Now he is the devil & should never have become coach.'"
Way to exaggerate, he took over and the honeymoon period meant he won enough games to keep us up. I recall most saying it was and odd decision to award him a 2.5 years contract, not that he shouldn’t have got the job.
Agar needed removing, Webster was the cheap option and an 18 month contract would’ve been a fair deal. He has shown this year there are flaws in his ability to coach, just as there were some good things on show last and early this season, but in the main he hasn’t a clue of how to get the club out of this hole we are in. Clearly paying up one person is a far cheaper option than paying up an entire squad of underperforming players.
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| Quote: Brian Briggs Ghost "Love this forum after Agar went & Webster took over and won games he was the messiah. Now he is the devil & should never have become coach.'"
Something to do with the horrible season we've had so far, maybe?
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It is "Fifita" not "Fafita"
If you don't know the difference between "there", "their" and "they're" I might get annoyed.
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| Dare I say it I'm actually excited now for the game on Sunday. At last a chance to see if the players didn't perform because they didn't believe in the coach or there is something else fundamentally wrong.
Fair enough for Dickens to rule the roost this weekend whilst we find a longer term solution.
I definitely would have Kear as first choice. No hesitation. I think he would relish the opportunity and can see the "potential" quality of this squad. He has no experience of working with Tim Smith, Godinet and some of the other exciting players we have. If he is in contention he must be licking his lips.
I dare say as well there maybe a release clause at Batley should the SL come knocking. After all wasn't he putting his CV in for the Cas job not so long ago. Also at a time when Cas were financially on the brink, as we now know.
I think there is enough time for someone to come in and turn us around in time for the split. Sunday confirmed to me that we have enough quality in our team to get a comfortable victory over the likes of Leigh. We just need to restore team spirit, motivation and a never say die attitude. If we do that I have a lot of confidence that we'll be in Super League next year.
Also, I think Widnes at home is a perfect post Webster match. Away from home they haven't been great and I think they are destined for the middle 8s like us. A perfect opportunity to make amends for that drubbing at their place and start setting a benchmark.
Come on Trin. I am genuinely excited again.
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It is "Fifita" not "Fafita"
If you don't know the difference between "there", "their" and "they're" I might get annoyed.
Sharing First World problems so you can get it right first time.
Millionaires wanted. Apply here --- Wakefield Trinity:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47943.jpg |
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| Forgot to add, all the best James Webster. You meant well but I think the parting of the ways is in everybody's' interest. Maybe the challenge was just too much for you at this stage of your career.
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| James Webster believed in Jordan and gave him a shot at super league which is why I will always be greatful to him,also spoke to me Several times during his development.6 top flight appearances at 2nd row and still 18yrs old so I think you can tell I wasn't one for him to go.Sorry if this as been done earlier in the thread but I've just got back from France where Jordan and Max represented their country whilst playing for Wakey Trin,yes Wakefield,so something must be working down at BV.If every body got finished when they failed at work then half of you lot on here would be sat on a park bench.As you've gathered I have got a lot of time for JW and Stu Dickens and I wish all the best for James and his young family for the future.
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| Quote: Brian Briggs Ghost "Love this forum after Agar went & Webster took over and won games he was the messiah. Now he is the devil & should never have become coach.'"
Ok Brian so you dont blame Webster so in that case you must be blaming the players or the management or maybe its the fans fault which one is it?.
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| Quote: BRIGGY "Ok Brian so you dont blame Webster so in that case you must be blaming the players or the management or maybe its the fans fault which one is it?.'"
It is quite simple the players. Even if they don't rate the coach they should be professional & do what they are paid to which is to play to Super League standard which they are not.
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| I don't think many fans have a bad word to say about Webster its just not worked out so something had to change
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| The problem is for me, that the players are putting effort in, they are just not co-ordinated.
The forwards are running hard and tackling hard but then leave a gap when they are put under pressure. It isn't just effort.
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| Quote: Brian Briggs Ghost "It is quite simple the players. Even if they don't rate the coach they should be professional & do what they are paid to which is to play to Super League standard which they are not.'"
Correct answer, and as i said on the other thread loyal fans have paid their wages and expect them to be proffesional and play to their best abilities week in week out regardless of other issues.
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| Quote: PopTart "The problem is for me, that the players are putting effort in, they are just not co-ordinated.
The forwards are running hard and tackling hard but then leave a gap when they are put under pressure. It isn't just effort.'"
This is the problem players rely too much on coaches. At this level they should be intelligent enough & know enough about the game to fill gaps.
I bet most of the players can't spell loyal never mind know what it means.
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| Quote: Big lads mate "James Webster believed in Jordan and gave him a shot at super league which is why I will always be grateful to him,also spoke to me Several times during his development.6 top flight appearances at 2nd row and still 18yrs old so I think you can tell I wasn't one for him to go.Sorry if this as been done earlier in the thread but I've just got back from France where Jordan and Max represented their country whilst playing for Wakey Trin,yes Wakefield,so something must be working down at BV.If every body got finished when they failed at work then half of you lot on here would be sat on a park bench.As you've gathered I have got a lot of time for JW and Stu Dickens and I wish all the best for James and his young family for the future.'"
I'd heard this from another source too.
Compared to Agar's knock them down and build them up style, Webster was a breath of fresh air for the juniors.
The problem is, that's not is whole job. When things were going wrong on the field, he was finding it hard to find a solution.
I was really hoping he could turn it round when the other players came back from injury but Hull KR killed it for me.
He didn't have to win but needed a change and it didn't happen.
Leigh could have saved him if we'd kicked on at half time but to Leigh's credit they forced a lot of that themselves.
It's a shame as we have lost something with him going, but the bigger priority was the fix the first team on field, and that wasn't him.
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