Who's to say he wouldn't do a better job than some of the unheard of halves from down under that have been suggested.

Bingo - known quantity behind what looks a good pack - will go well.

Also who are these SL SH's scrambling to join us - I mean there are loads of them in SL.

Twitter Dm from Liam himself?

Who are these SL players - Im not doubting that Finn is borderline SL quality it's the alternatives I' struggling with.

My doubts about Liam Finn is apart from his goal kicking, is that he doesn't appear to have been crucifying teams when playing for Fev, he never seems a stand out to me.

To be honest Vasty i have not heard a thing about a half back, to me they are the hardest to replace, not many about, we will have to wait and see

Sorry - but IMO he's slow, has an average passing game and a reasonable kicking game.

Would be disappointed if true - I think his day has passed!

I think I said all that myself, so yes I'm fully aware of his limitations.

However next year is not about flowing RL it's about grinding results out - not just for us but most teams.

For that you need a strong pack (which we have) and experience in the halves.

Moving a pack around doesn't require speed but does require an adequate passing game and the ability to to produce opportunities from kicks in what may be a lot of tight games.

If after half a season we are looking good then maybe we could look around for a bit more star quality.

As match winners neither Sykes or Finn make the grade but as a good link they are ok.

Finally "but IMO he's slow, has an average passing game and a reasonable kicking game…" could if you were being harsh describe Tim Smith. His passing was occasionally well above average but just as often it was diabolical, he was cart horse slow and his kicking game was adequate.

I bow to the expert who knows more than all the rest of us put together - seriously I do.