It's not very often i use this word on here but i know for a fact (as do you probably Al) that this certainly runs deeper than just two players. These two decisions will have knock on effects for a while yet.

Any chance of expanding at what these deep running issues are?

I'm not sure it's my place to on a public forum.

Is this in a good way or bad?

Fair enough, although I imagine a large proportion of people on here pay into a scheme primarily to help the club retain its youngsters. If there's something thats going to hinder that then I would've thought its only fair they be told what that issue is.

At a guess I would say its the lack of fans the club has which makes it difficult to compete with bigger, or richer, clubs.

Raleigh would do a good job for us get Huddersfield to trow Crabtree and Mason in and we have a deal

He didnt want to come before. The 3 players on offer cant get into the side

Time will tell.

Do you have a cloak and daggar? whilst you profess to know things you seem to skirt explaining some of your posts!

He knows as little or as much as the rest of us!

If he knows more, it doesn't matter as he will not share but fuel the fire with innocuous comments of no substance and little use

Ry - you trying to up your post numbers?

Would not do any business with Shudd's they are like vultures, they tried to lure Smurf before when Fergy went when we were in Admin, they prey on other's misery, Now we are in a new era, long gone are the day's when we need to sell players for financial gain, we are moving the club forward and that means keeping hold of your best players, Smurf will never be a world beater but he is hell of a squad player and why would we want Kirmond or Wood ? we have better youngsters lying in wait and with Kirmond its a case of "been there done that", lets carry on building a squad to compete at the top level and tell Davy and Hudd's to P#ss off and go and circle over somewhere else....

HERE HERE top post mate !!!!!!

New best mate for the week is it.

In what way does that matter, is he not allowed to make his own choices. To claim he snubbed us and thus make it appear personal is incredibly childish. If I had a choice to join/stay at my much better funded hometown club or join us I'd require a lobotomy to accept the latter wouldn't you.