FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > "Agar joins Wakefield"
93 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
International Star3831No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50836_1298143372.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50836.jpg



If it is Agar to be announced then he will get my full backing and he starts with a clean slate.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2023No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2012Apr 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
51673_1328536363.jpg
[img:219j9o2g]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/gilly/sss2.jpg[/img:219j9o2g]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51673.jpg



Quote: altofts wildcat "If it is Agar to be announced then he will get my full backing and he starts with a clean slate.'"
Here here, Agar will know and appreciate the challenge, he won't just sit there after a few defeats thinking is this my lot, what's the next commentary date? he'll knuckle down. I kinda wanted a low profile coach like JD, Poching or even March as they wouldn't think they were bigger than the club like Noble, Goulding, Millward or Gentle would have. Perhaps Agar, who could attract bigger names than my preferences, is a perfect happy medium? icon_smile.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star15521
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2020May 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50722_1319672516.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50722.jpg



Quote: The Trip "Also if as stated RA is good mates with JE well what's the problem.It's a positive, this friendship can only be a good thing in communication's between CE and Coach. Trust!'"


I can't agree on that point; a cosy group of mates at the top level of any organisation is most definitely a BAD thing. That group needs to challenge and disagree with each other, and be able to constructively criticise the things that the others are doing. Very difficult and uncomfortable things to do with the bloke who'll be at your barby on Sat night.

If JE has been banging the drum for Agar since the process started, he's taking a big risk.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4291
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2024Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: bren2k "I can't agree on that point; a cosy group of mates at the top level of any organisation is most definitely a BAD thing. That group needs to challenge and disagree with each other, and be able to constructively criticise the things that the others are doing. Very difficult and uncomfortable things to do with the bloke who'll be at your barby on Sat night.

If JE has been banging the drum for Agar since the process started, he's taking a big risk.'"


I've done this many times with mates and we're still mates today. It really doesn't bother me if Richard and James are friends, they should both be professional enough to realise that whilst at work they are colleagues and may well have conflicting ideas. Give the man a chance and judge him this time in twelve months. Clean slate and a new start next season for the club, the coach and the squad. In reality next season is like our first season in super league all over again, at this moment in time we have a sub standard squad in terms of super league ability, the club are actively looking to improve this for next season.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach30147
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32641_1503834456.jpg
The poor man's bonaire:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32641.jpg



Quote: dboy "None of the answers to the questions you pose make HFC a "big" club.

They confirm you as the biggest underachievers in SL. Well done you.'"

That's your new coach's fault. I hope you enjoy him. 3 year deal I'm hearing. He's bringing some deadwood players with him too

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach742
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2022Sep 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Jog on

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5764
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
46978_1481681744.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_46978.jpg



Quote: bren2k "I can't agree on that point; a cosy group of mates at the top level of any organisation is most definitely a BAD thing. That group needs to challenge and disagree with each other, and be able to constructively criticise the things that the others are doing. Very difficult and uncomfortable things to do with the bloke who'll be at your barby on Sat night.

If JE has been banging the drum for Agar since the process started, he's taking a big risk.'"


Don't fully agree with you on this one, obviously there are exceptions but I was in business with my best friend for over a decade and sure there's ups and downs but as long as your both mature enough, intelligent and honest it can be a very healthy working environment. If anything you can be more honest with someone you know and talk a lot straighter.

At the end of the day as long as Agar is the best candidate out of those that have been interviewed, there's not a lot more any of us can say, they've obviously been through the correct process and by the sounds of it had guys in front of Agar, who have chosen to go else where.

RankPostsTeam
International Star15521
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2020May 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50722_1319672516.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50722.jpg



Quote: Shifty Cat "Don't fully agree with you on this one, obviously there are exceptions but I was in business with my best friend for over a decade and sure there's ups and downs but as long as your both mature enough, intelligent and honest it can be a very healthy working environment. If anything you can be more honest with someone you know and talk a lot straighter.

At the end of the day as long as Agar is the best candidate out of those that have been interviewed, there's not a lot more any of us can say, they've obviously been through the correct process and by the sounds had guys in front of Agar but we are where we are.'"


Fair comments on both points - maybe it's time for a reality check for many people, myself included.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10540No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32093.jpg
:32093.jpg



There are times when I see/hear fellow Hull fans do/say things that really make me grimace and hope nobody tars me with the same brush.

As for Agar, I'm another who thinks the change could do him good. I think he was promoted beyond his ability, but as said he did a good job of clearing out deadwood and his recruitment has included some very good signings for us. Also, this season we have started to play much better stuff. He does seem to have improved during his tenure, and may well do so in his next job wherever that may be. He should also have learned a lot from his time at Hull. I also genuinely believe that he does everything he can that he thinks is for the good of the club and works very hard.

The biggest problems I think he has are his interchanges, his reluctance to give youth a go, inability/refusal to change tactics mid-game, and persistent failure against the top teams. He needs to fix a couple of those in the near future to do a good job for you IMO. If money continues to be tight for you he'll probably be forced into promoting youth at least.

If he did come to you I reckon what he would do would be similar to what he did with us (at least initially); get you winning the games you 'should', but not producing any shocks. I wouldn't bank on any cup runs with him, though. I think he'd maybe get you back to the fringes of the playoffs, but then you might need someone else to kick on further, as we are trying to do.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach13126No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2023Feb 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
12839_1486909898.png
[b:16wvcohs]"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - [i:16wvcohs]Peter Sterling[/i:16wvcohs][/b:16wvcohs] [quote="Adam Pearson said not":16wvcohs][b:16wvcohs]I know there are two franchises and two clubs (in Hull) and that will remain forever more[/b:16wvcohs][/quote:16wvcohs]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12839.png



Quote: bren2k "Don't worry too much - we all have our divots.'"


Afraid that guy is a trench not a divot.

Agar will do OK at Wakefield. As another fan said a change will do him good. He got Hull to a CC final and has a very good knowledge of young talent in the British game. Hope he goes well for you.

RankPostsTeam
International Star15521
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2020May 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50722_1319672516.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50722.jpg



Quote: Staffs FC "Afraid that guy is a trench not a divot.

Agar will do OK at Wakefield. As another fan said a change will do him good. He got Hull to a CC final and has a very good knowledge of young talent in the British game. Hope he goes well for you.'"


It's nice to see some balanced views - cheers for that, and the poster above.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1468
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: carl_spackler "The biggest problems I think he has are his interchanges, his reluctance to give youth a go, inability/refusal to change tactics mid-game, and persistent failure against the top teams.'"


That has a familiar ring to it.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4891
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3634.jpg
[IMG]//i50.tinypic.com/a59ff5.gif[/IMG]:3634.jpg



Quote: Jake the Peg "That's your new coach's fault. I hope you enjoy him. 3 year deal I'm hearing. He's bringing some deadwood players with him too'"



You would know your boarf ha=ve been prolific at bringing deadwood to Hull theres better drifywood in the Humber.

I see Pearson is akin to a god on Humberside and the saviour of Hull FC, well he did a great job at City gone bust and relegated.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2095No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
18345_1380129474.png
FC THROUGH AND THROUGH [img:3up2qbw4]http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9237/hullfcsiglo7.gif[/img:3up2qbw4]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18345.png



Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "You would know your boarf ha

If your going to slag someone off (i.e. Pearson) then you need to get your facts right, Duffen and Bartlett owned City when they got relegated and on the verge of going bust, Adam Pearson was brought back into the club to sort out the debt problem and get new owners, both of which he has done.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4980No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2023Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23909.gif
'That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party.... So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin':23909.gif



Quote: RebelRebel "That has a familiar ring to it.'"


Except for the failure against top teams and beating the ones we expect to. It's been more the other way around I reckon

93 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
93 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.87255859375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
Recent
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
34s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62437
35s
Round 26 Wigan Away
Once were Lo
134
37s
Film game
karetaker
3668
1m
This weeks disciplinary
karetaker
1330
1m
Todays game v Giants
Barbed Wire
52
1m
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
1m
New Players
BigTime
72
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
3083
1m
York City Knights home
Trojan Horse
48
2m
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
CarlB
25
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
Rixy
2
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside York Knights Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Old FC when we knew how to play rugby
mk_fc
5
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Dons v Widnes - Sunday 15 September 2024
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
Catalans Keep Season Alive With Victory Over The Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
A new low
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And Send Hull FC Bottom
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Points difference
orangeman
15
TODAY
Toulouse away
faxcar
19
TODAY
Todays game v Giants
Barbed Wire
52
TODAY
Staying or Not
fanstanningl
19
TODAY
Salford H Moved to Thursday
NickyKiss
26
TODAY
North Stand
NickyKiss
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
543
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
343
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
333
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
430
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
870
Salford Close In On The Play O..
846
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
982
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
939
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
983
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1207
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1290
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1390
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1334
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1569
Five Into Three - Our Top Six ..
2157
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.63M 2,802 80,11914,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 19th Sep
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Fri 20th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Cronulla
v
NQL Cowboys
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
 Sat 21st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Sydney
v
Manly
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
15:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
       League One 2024-R24
15:00
Hunslet
v
Midlands
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
 Sat 28th Sep
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 19th Sep
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
SL
20:00
Wigan-Salford
Fri 20th Sep
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Leeds
SL
20:00
Leigh-St.Helens
SL
20:00
Warrington-LondonB
Sat 21st Sep
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Catalans
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 15th Sep
WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
WSL2024 14 Hudds W36-0Wire W
CH 26 Barrow34-14Whitehaven
CH 26 Bradford16-14Batley
CH 26 Dewsbury16-28Swinton
CH 26 Doncaster30-14Widnes
CH 26 Featherstone6-20Sheffield
CH 26 Wakefield20-4York
NRL 28 Canterbury22-24Manly
L1 23 Midlands24-22Workington
L1 23 Rochdale30-18Hunslet
Sat 14th Sep
SL 26 Hull FC4-58Salford
SL 26 Catalans12-8LondonB
SL 26 Huddersfield0-66Warrington
CH 26 Toulouse38-18Halifax
NRL 28 Melbourne37-10Cronulla
NRL 28 NQL Cowboys28-16Newcastle
Fri 13th Sep
SL 26 Leigh0-24Hull KR
SL 26 St.Helens40-4Castleford
SL 26 Wigan38-0Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 26 657 336 321 42
Hull KR 26 693 311 382 40
Warrington 26 684 319 365 38
Salford 26 550 483 67 32
St.Helens 26 584 370 214 30
Leigh 26 548 386 162 29
 
Leeds 26 514 462 52 28
Catalans 26 451 423 28 28
Huddersfield 26 434 648 -214 18
Castleford 26 415 701 -286 15
LondonB 26 317 862 -545 6
Hull FC 26 324 870 -546 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 24 892 256 636 46
Bradford 24 618 373 245 32
Toulouse 23 662 340 322 31
Sheffield 24 594 472 122 28
Widnes 24 513 433 80 27
York 25 613 439 174 26
 
Featherstone 24 566 472 94 26
Doncaster 24 470 527 -57 23
Batley 24 378 513 -135 20
Halifax 24 475 617 -142 20
Barrow 23 418 648 -230 19
Swinton 24 446 606 -160 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 25 308 821 -513 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
Recent
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
34s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62437
35s
Round 26 Wigan Away
Once were Lo
134
37s
Film game
karetaker
3668
1m
This weeks disciplinary
karetaker
1330
1m
Todays game v Giants
Barbed Wire
52
1m
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
1m
New Players
BigTime
72
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
3083
1m
York City Knights home
Trojan Horse
48
2m
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
CarlB
25
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
Rixy
2
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside York Knights Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Old FC when we knew how to play rugby
mk_fc
5
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Dons v Widnes - Sunday 15 September 2024
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
Catalans Keep Season Alive With Victory Over The Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
A new low
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And Send Hull FC Bottom
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Points difference
orangeman
15
TODAY
Toulouse away
faxcar
19
TODAY
Todays game v Giants
Barbed Wire
52
TODAY
Staying or Not
fanstanningl
19
TODAY
Salford H Moved to Thursday
NickyKiss
26
TODAY
North Stand
NickyKiss
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
543
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
343
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
333
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
430
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
870
Salford Close In On The Play O..
846
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
982
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
939
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
983
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1207
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1290
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1390
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1334
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1569
Five Into Three - Our Top Six ..
2157


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!