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Quote: BaldRick "Serious question . ... I have seen mention of attendances soaring , and mention of employment statstcs improving in the area if and when the new stadia are built .
Where are all these new fans appearing from ? And are these 'new' employees going to be filling newly created vacancies , apart from the ones obviously employed it newly created posts as security staff at the new site ?
Are you expecting an imminent influx of overseas unemployed RL fans coinciding with the opening of the site and the decision of a foreign business to move onto the site at Newmarket ?
Or is it more of a 'build it and they will come' fantasy ?

Build it and people will point and laugh is truly what I am expecting . [iThough I do wish to be proven wrong on this [/i.'"


Really? I'm sure if you were you would instantly be back on this board, congratulating everyone who has made it possible. But I'm not holding my breath.

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Quote: TRB "Cheers jacques.

I'm just trying to keep the awareness going and hopefully generate some excitement for what should be a momentus announcement!

But here’s the niggling doubt that’s in my mind.

After so many false dawns I have become de-sensitised to it all.

It has become the be all & end all regarding my clubs future & has taken away my capacity to enjoy what it was all about in days of yore.

I would be so, so happy if things went our way for once, however, as much as I’m aware, I’m so very tired…………

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "But here’s the niggling doubt that’s in my mind.

After so many false dawns I have become de-sensitised to it all.

It has become the be all & end all regarding my clubs future & has taken away my capacity to enjoy what it was all about in days of yore.

I would be so, so happy if things went our way for once, however, as much as I’m aware, I’m so very tired…………'"


icon_lol.gif sums it up, especially the I'm so tired - Amen to that.

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Quote: vastman "

Now is not the time to give up!

Man up vasty! icon_wink.gif

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It's just a first step and we should not be complacent about crowds. Warrington works partly because it is so close to the town centre. Hull works because it is so close to the old Boulevard (and closer to the city). Our better comparison is Salford, where we will move a few miles the other side of the city and be plonked next to a motorway.

I'm hopeful it goes our way. I'm still slightly worried that RW will get his way, that Yorkcourt will get their development but with a stadium at an already approved site at Glasshoughton, thus reducing the green belt and industrial impact around Methley, which I presume was the intention of his intervention.

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Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "how long now hours/days/weeks????'"


I'll give you an update on that tomorrow.
Perfect revision questions for my SAT's kids!

I have one lad who'll love working that out! If I start him off with it I'll have an update every morning until the end of May! Sure his folks will love that!!

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Quote: Slugger McBatt "
I'm hopeful it goes our way. I'm still slightly worried that RW will get his way, that Yorkcourt will get their development but with a stadium at an already approved site at Glasshoughton, thus reducing the green belt and industrial impact around Methley, which I presume was the intention of his intervention.'"


Now that would be the apocalyptic scenario! I would be surprised if it was in the Inspector or SOS powers to make such a decision.

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Quote: deeHell "Now that would be the apocalyptic scenario! I would be surprised if it was in the Inspector or SOS powers to make such a decision.'"


Know a bit about planning but certainly would not claim to be an expert but I don't think the SoS/Inspector can do what Slugger is fearing.

The Public Inquiry was about the Planning Application as submitted which included a Community Stadium. The enquiry discussed a Section 106 Agreement and Conditions which would be imposed if the planning was to be approved. The 106 and Conditions relate to the application including the Stadium, indeed the 106 is specific on how much distribution can be developed before the Stadium has to be built and no further development can be undertaken until the Stadium has been built.

I don't think the SoS could approve the application subject to their being a contribution towards a Stadium at Glasshoughton which is to be owned by Castleford, a Private Company as I believe this is against the law. Section 106 contributions cannot be used to support Private Sector ventures they have to benefit the Public at large. Newmarket is not a Private Venture, it is a Community Stadium which will be owned by a Trust whose aims will benefit the community and not a Private Company.

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Quote: Sandal Cat "Know a bit about planning but certainly would not claim to be an expert but I don't think the SoS/Inspector can do what Slugger is fearing.

The Public Inquiry was about the Planning Application as submitted which included a Community Stadium. The enquiry discussed a Section 106 Agreement and Conditions which would be imposed if the planning was to be approved. The 106 and Conditions relate to the application including the Stadium, indeed the 106 is specific on how much distribution can be developed before the Stadium has to be built and no further development can be undertaken until the Stadium has been built.

I don't think the SoS could approve the application subject to their being a contribution towards a Stadium at Glasshoughton which is to be owned by Castleford, a Private Company as I believe this is against the law. Section 106 contributions cannot be used to support Private Sector ventures they have to benefit the Public at large. Newmarket is not a Private Venture, it is a Community Stadium which will be owned by a Trust whose aims will benefit the community and not a Private Company.'"


What about the scenario of Glasshoughton been the community stadium and not been solely owned by CT ?

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Quote: Sandal Cat "Know a bit about planning but certainly would not claim to be an expert but I don't think the SoS/Inspector can do what Slugger is fearing.

The Public Inquiry was about the Planning Application as submitted which included a Community Stadium. The enquiry discussed a Section 106 Agreement and Conditions which would be imposed if the planning was to be approved. The 106 and Conditions relate to the application including the Stadium, indeed the 106 is specific on how much distribution can be developed before the Stadium has to be built and no further development can be undertaken until the Stadium has been built.

I don't think the SoS could approve the application subject to their being a contribution towards a Stadium at Glasshoughton which is to be owned by Castleford, a Private Company as I believe this is against the law. Section 106 contributions cannot be used to support Private Sector ventures they have to benefit the Public at large. Newmarket is not a Private Venture, it is a Community Stadium which will be owned by a Trust whose aims will benefit the community and not a Private Company.'"



There is also a bit more to add, that is any planning gain must be used for developments in the site in question and it is not transferable. So basically the council can't say if we allow you to develop Newmarket build us a stadium at Glasshoughton.

This also has further implications. I can't see how any planning gain that may be obtained for any of the developments that are being proposed in and around the Cas ground can be transfered up to Glasshoughton. It will be intereresting to see how they get around that one.

My money is still on us getting the green light up at Newmarket and then the council putting pressure on Cas to join in up there, albeit on an initial short term arrangment. The worst case scenario would be to have half the stadium with black and ginger seats.

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Quote: jack in the box "There is also a bit more to add, that is any planning gain must be used for developments in the site in question and it is not transferable. So basically the council can't say if we allow you to develop Newmarket build us a stadium at Glasshoughton.

This also has further implications. I can't see how any planning gain that may be obtained for any of the developments that are being proposed in and around the Cas ground can be transfered up to Glasshoughton. It will be intereresting to see how they get around that one.

My money is still on us getting the green light up at Newmarket and then the council putting pressure on Cas to join in up there, albeit on an initial short term arrangment. The worst case scenario would be to have half the stadium with black and ginger seats.'"


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Quote: jack in the box "There is also a bit more to add, that is any planning gain must be used for developments in the site in question and it is not transferable. So basically the council can't say if we allow you to develop Newmarket build us a stadium at Glasshoughton.

This also has further implications. I can't see how any planning gain that may be obtained for any of the developments that are being proposed in and around the Cas ground can be transfered up to Glasshoughton. It will be intereresting to see how they get around that one.

My money is still on us getting the green light up at Newmarket and then the council putting pressure on Cas to join in up there, albeit on an initial short term arrangment. The worst case scenario would be to have half the stadium with black and ginger seats.'"


Dont you mean the north east corner and part of the north stand icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: jack in the box "There is also a bit more to add, that is any planning gain must be used for developments in the site in question and it is not transferable. So basically the council can't say if we allow you to develop Newmarket build us a stadium at Glasshoughton.

This also has further implications. I can't see how any planning gain that may be obtained for any of the developments that are being proposed in and around the Cas ground can be transfered up to Glasshoughton. It will be intereresting to see how they get around that one.

My money is still on us getting the green light up at Newmarket and then the council putting pressure on Cas to join in up there, albeit on an initial short term arrangment. The worst case scenario would be to have half the stadium with black and ginger seats.'"


Thats correct, Section 106 monies have to spent as a result of the development and in the vacinity of the development.

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Quote: Tigerade "What about the scenario of Glasshoughton been the community stadium and not been solely owned by CT ?'"


Still cannot use Section 106 monies generated as a result of development at Newmarket to cross subsidise a development in Glasshoughton. The gain as a result of the pain has to be in the vacinity of where the pain is inflicted if that makes sense.

Glasshoughton is going to be a privately owned Stadium according to Richard Wright. He certainly implied that in his letter to the Public Inquiry as he said he would be happy to allow a tenant to play at Glasshoughton subject to them paying a suitable rent. There was no reference in his letter to a Community Trust. I guess it could be co-owned by Castleford and a Community Trust with each receiving a proportion of any income and sharing costs but as said early it could not receive a cross subsidy from Newmarket.

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