100 percent agree with you , am sure Bradford , Halifax and Widnes all said the same thing , last few years have been painful to watch but sadly unless we get an owner with deep pockets can’t see a way back. Realistically on a thread bare squad last season we lost 635k and we had the second lowest loss of any club ! Reality is clubs can’t make a profit as it stands - reduced tv money is only going to exacerbate this

Can’t we leave the doom and gloom for 2024 start of season instead of starting now. Just pure speculation and negativity and we haven’t even finished this season.

I hope we get a respite from the doom for at least a few months.

I certainly never said or indeed think it will be easy, just at a level we are more likely to compete at with a few more wins perhaps. We have been teetering for the last five seasons and this the one when we are finally flushed. Baring 10 games or so, it's been awful to slowly watch the club you support get worse year on year. Like I said it's all subject to the takeover. Fresh start, fresh outlook, fresh coach. It might make match days enjoyable again.

Well I have woke up this morning and the aroma of coffee is in my nostrils. I obviously don't live in your world because the way I say things, this season is over. I realise we now have to go through the motions of playing two meaningless games but that is it for me.
Just waiting to see what pans out now and hopefully Matt Ellis takes over pretty quick. He has so much to do to rebuild the car crash left by Minards and Carter and in reality very little time to sort it all out before we start our championship campaign .

there lies the problem all you and several others do is accept mediocrity.

absolute shambles

Need to face reality and start planning now

"Enjoying"

I genuinely can't remember a consistent period of "Enjoying" our team. It's been 5 years of waiting for the inevitable.

If we want to bounce back, the work to do so needs to begin or, to have begun already and it wont be easy.

Of course it does but fans writing the club and team off for the championship already and saying the club won’t survive etc isn’t reality it’s doom and gloomsrs. There’s some incredibly pessimistic fans on this board and while they may see themselves as realists they’re over that line into pure pessimism in my book.


Nobody said it will be easy, nobody has said we don’t need to face reality but the club must build and prepare for 2024 and should be given the chance to do so with support from the fans.

Some fans are more interested in trying to throw mud at the club owners and are calling out other fans for trying to get behind the team in these last few weeks. What classy fans we have. Some on this thread still more interested in trying to score points against other fans.

Where did I say we didn’t need to start planning for next season? Reality will be faced whether we like it or not.

I am more interested in what we need to do preparing for 2024 than the mud throwing and sniping that continues to bore on from select fans. Those same fans who are now calling out fans for trying to support their team. It’s the lowest of the low.

This season is all but gone and focus should be going straight to 2024 for certain. That’s what I am interested in talking about.

We are at a point which isn’t fantastic but we norms need to see how things unfold as you say and discuss this off-season our preperation for 2024. If it’s Ellis then great but if it doesn’t happen then I would like to see how the current owners are going to approach 2024.

First priority is hopefully to sign s handful of this years squad up who would add to a successful championship squad in 2024. We may know for certain after the Leigh game if the SL dream is over.