He did indeed but clearly they are not so the only logical explanation is they are not fit. Annoying because all three would get the nod from me. What I’m not is baffled.

Catalan

Apologies, didn't see that but the points the same, they will be back when ready.

Agree ,but if players are out rumers star spreading .about fallen out with Coaches,going to Catalan .That's one of the good things about Mr Carter having a zoom meeting every month it helps out there to bed. Interesting to ear J Westerman on about how much the culture of the club as change in the close season .And is in a far better place than last season

It was worse than that. If you watch the footage, he doesn't just tap it 15 yards away from the mark but actually runs away from the mark because the Wakey forwards were lined up in front of it and ran into the gap. Disgraceful.

From that description, with his free hand touching the ground, Tom would have been allowed to off-load it, so not completed.

It's very good for quashing dissent though, because the ref just asks them if they want to challenge it and they shut up.

The problem being that two or even three tacklers can be involved. One stays on his feet and clamps the ball and the others wrestle the player to the ground with the ball carrying arm still held up by tackler 1, who then gives the nod for the others to peel away before ripping the ball from the grounded player. Its a terrible rule and it looks awful.
I doubt that this was the intended outcome from the rule change, but that is what it has created.

Think the Captins challenge is ok ,changed two teams result from a loss to a win because it was used right

I always say it, captains challenge is probably the only positive rule they have brought in in the last 10 years and ironically the only one we haven't adopted over here.

It's interesting to see some on here call it a gimmick when as you say alegend, it is used quite successfully quite often and quite often changes games, I've heard the majority of coaches over here would prefer to have the rule, I know Chester certainly is in favour of it but the problem we have is not every game is televised so we then get into the unfair advantage at televised games (which I think we have anyway with the video ref!!).

I dont see how the new stripping rules improve the game at all, just another thing to be interpretated by the refs, funny how we adopt these rules from Aus but our refereeing standard's are no where near there's in the amount of resource each game gets, maybe a good idea in theory to have the same rules throughout but implementing them and judging them correctly is a completely different ball game over here.

We have now got the point where there are a set of new rules every year, its all getting a bit silly for me.

Though the OZZ ball strip rule is not in use this season .Could be wrong. but have not seen it so far.Think it should be kicked out ,Think the big clubs get the 50/50 calls as it is without refs calling that