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i know how much work has gone into newmarket but imo it could be the death of the club. success is not guarenteed and we could end up with a white elephant stuck in no mans land with little appetite to go attend. thornes park ground only would be better option as would sharlston pit. with the kibble as training complex. or normanton or denby dale road.

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Belle Vue for me it is our home, it is our history, you would not see Leeds looking to move from their ground. We have a good basis with the playing surface, I know we have to buy it back but the cost including the refurbishments required would be much less that starting from nothing.
I believe our biggest problem will be those people living behind the West terracing the development of the other three sides would have little or no impact.

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Maybe more substancial structures would actually be of benefit to those living around the ground, noise wise at least....cos when them crowds start to build icon_smile.gif

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A view from "outside" (as a Saints supporter of 50+ years): ask me the same question 5 years ago re Knowsley Road... emotional answer has to be "re-develop KR" problem is who pays for it? Now that Langtree Park is built, there is no comparison.. Langtree wins on every point (except "history", but that just means that we will need to create some history at LT!). Having said that I've no idea where Newmarket is in relation to BV - it makes no difference to me, but it might make a lot of difference to regular home fans.

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Quote: lp2012 "A view from "outside" (as a Saints supporter of 50+ years) Having said that I've no idea where Newmarket is in relation to BV - it makes no difference to me, but it might make a lot of difference to regular home fans.[/quote]

Would you be happy moving to Skelmersdale or Leigh or Runcorn or Cadishead, because in effect that's what some of us would have to do in comparison.

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Not sure if your talking about your own situation there but Newmarket is about 3 miles out of the city , maybe a little further from BV. The likes of Skelmersdale & Leigh are over 10 miles out of St Helens, fair bit further.

Imo fans who live on the Stanley, Wrenthorpe, outwood, Eastmoor, Altofts, Normy side of town it's closer than BV. But I supose with situations like this you can't please every punter.

There are some negatives about Newmarket but the positives far outweigh them.

If we'd have had the money and backng, I always said that land where they eventually built that Bannatyne gym, Hotel and Burger King etc on the dual carridgeway near the Vine Tree Pub, was a great place for a stadium, alas it was not to be.

Personally I'd be happy with either, as long as the BV redevelopment was done to a good standard and thus able to move our club forward.

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Normanton to BV according to google is 3.8 miles, Normy to Newmarket lane is 6.1 miles, quite a difference. Plus getting to BV by bus/train is a doddle but I'd guess getting to Newmarket would be a bus into Wakey, then a Leeds bus via Stanley and a short walk, BV is much easier for us from Normy.

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Quote: JINJER "Normanton to BV according to google is 3.8 miles, Normy to Newmarket lane is 6.1 miles, quite a difference. Plus getting to BV by bus/train is a doddle but I'd guess getting to Newmarket would be a bus into Wakey, then a Leeds bus via Stanley and a short walk, BV is much easier for us from Normy.'"


That's surprisng tbh. When I think of going to Normy from where I am, it's just down the road from Altofts, must be further than I thought. I sometimes forget that Normy is jusy over t'Common. My thinking was that Normy is just a junction down from Newmarket and pretty easy to get to, obviously that's if you've got a car or lift.

I think those that use Public Transport it's easier to get to BV no doubt.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "That's surprisng tbh. When I think of going to Normy from where I am, it's just down the road from Altofts, must be further than I thought. I sometimes forget that Normy is jusy over t'Common. My thinking was that Normy is just a junction down from Newmarket and pretty easy to get to, obviously that's if you've got a car or lift.

I think those that use Public Transport it's easier to get to BV no doubt.'"

Not a crticism of you in anyway, I was surprised myself but we did get a quote from our mini bus and the difference was quite staggering, that's why I googled it.

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Quote: JINJER "Not a crticism of you in anyway, I was surprised myself but we did get a quote from our mini bus and the difference was quite staggering, that's why I googled it.'"


Never thought it was mate. Just looking on google maps myself and you're right it, even though it's just a junction down it's around 6 miles, motorways can be deceiving.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "Never thought it was mate. Just looking on google maps myself and you're right it, even though it's just a junction down it's around 6 miles, motorways can be deceiving.'"

So you didn't believe me? icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Shifty Cat "

I was just making a general point to the Saint's fan although an exaggerated one at that, Rainford and Haydock would have been a better comparison than Skem and Leigh, but the point still stands, if he lived at Haydock I don't think he'd relish going to Runcorn to watch them, just as I'm not relishing doubling my journey time to go to NM as will a lot more, although if you live that side of town then its understandable for fans wanting NM to go ahead.

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It seemed like complete fantasy, so it had to be done mate. icon_wink.gif

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BV for me, never keen on Newmarket to be honest.

Will we be able to develop BV, isn't the lease up at the end of the year?

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