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Quote: miamivice "on the subject of h&s, i too am a safety professional and there were definitely issues last night that needed to be addressed (stairwells left clear - this is often so that the first aiders can get to casualties easily etc), and there are also some improvements that need to be made that are not h&s related (beer queues).

*quick rant* - there are a lot of issues that are not h&s related but people label it as such so they are not questioned, many of these are just poor customer service. us h&s guys get a bad reputation for been jobsworths, when it is often not our fault!! sometimes it is over zealous insurance assessors!!! *rant over*

cracking atmosphere last night though.'"

Well said that man. My comparison with the night club was nothing to do with the bloody stand setting on fire it was to do with the ability of people and the emergency services having the ability to move in or out of the stand. d040.gif

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Quote: Topcat13 "It's not the running out of beer that's the issue I have a problem with the lost revenue in what is one of our biggest earners.
This is are biggest opportunity of the season to make some £.
And we throw it away on/off the field.
Could have filled a few holes in are ship.
A conservative estimate of 50k lost.
They were people wanting to spend money and we couldn't take it off them.
I hope someone is held responsible for this?
Or maybe we didn't have enough to pay the supplier with our track record I don't think I'd be offering credit.
If I had to go down legal channels to get paid.'"


A conservative estimate ???????

Go on then, where have you conservatively estimated that figure from ???????

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Well I saved a tenner last night that would have gone behind the bar.

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Quote: Topcat13 "Ran out of BEER!
Beer and a game of rugby go hand in hand for me.
We need the £ and to lose the revenue from beer sales at our most profitable home fixture is laughable!
We were expecting a 5 figure crowd all week?
So who ever orders the beer should be disciplined!
Opportunity missed!
Will just have to sell more ST!!
On the matter of H+S?
The location of the beer sheds for home supporters is an issue!
Located high at the back of north stand with no way to que and getting in other people's way.
The burger bar by Doncaster road turnstiles causes a bottle neck on a thoroughfare making accessing the male toilets difficult. And the steps down to the east pen dangerous!'"


You do know the ordering of beer and the wet sales no longer comes into the club as revenue? It's outsourced to a 3rd party

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Quote: Topcat13 "It's not the running out of beer that's the issue I have a problem with the lost revenue in what is one of our biggest earners.
This is are biggest opportunity of the season to make some £.
And we throw it away on/off the field.
Could have filled a few holes in are ship.
A conservative estimate of 50k lost.
They were people wanting to spend money and we couldn't take it off them.
I hope someone is held responsible for this?
Or maybe we didn't have enough to pay the supplier with our track record I don't think I'd be offering credit.
If I had to go down legal channels to get paid.'"

We don't get the revenue from beer sales

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Quote: Daddycool "We don't get the revenue from beer sales'"




What benefits do the club get from beer sales?

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Quote: El Rey "What benefits do the club get from beer sales?'"


We get a set amount per month. So actual amounts sold doesnt alter that. However I do acknowledge that poor service has knock on effects

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Quote: Daddycool "You do know the ordering of beer and the wet sales no longer comes into the club as revenue? It's outsourced to a 3rd party'"

I did notice the quality of food has gone downhill!
Burgers especially!!
So we're giving it away!
No wonder were SKINT!!

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Surely we get a percentage of the value of any additional sales over a set level? If we don't then it's a terrible deal

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Quote: Topcat13 "So we're giving it away!
No wonder were SKINT!!'"


How are we giving it away?

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How much a month is the deal worth?
No where near what can be generated by keeping it in house?
IMO
Its one of the few revenue streams we have.
That's giving it away for me!

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Whatever the deal is, it will be worse than selling your own, however a regular annual income up front or a monthly income could be more useful to the club when we go a long time without a meaningful home game and no or little food and beverage income.
I would say it comes at some cost.

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Quote: Topcat13 "How much a month is the deal worth?
No where near what can be generated by keeping it in house?
IMO
Its one of the few revenue streams we have.
That's giving it away for me!'"


I'm not revealing that on here.
But we negotiated a sum based on what we had sold in previous seasons so that it was guaranteed. We probably lost out on last nights game but bear in mind that it was originally going to be on a cold day in spring. I doubt sales would have been very high that day.

Damned if we do. Damned if we don't.

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Seems like the club made a sensible decision and without knowing the figures it would be stupid to make assumptions. There will be other days it'll be beneficial but we won't have people crowing about it on here. We're very much a glass empty set of fans again it seems!

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We now play in front of 10k not 5k
It's 100% profit for the club with little overheads staff/supplies.
The mark up on the bottom line makes it worthwhile.
Did the 3rd party supplie the sheds/containers?
Are we charging rent??
Do we take a % of total sales???
Or is it a set price a month????

A glass was about all you could your hands on last night!
Plastic of course icon_lol.gif

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