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| Willzay:Trojan Horse:Willzay:Trojan Horse:1315trinity:Willzay:
Until Max stops bottling the high pressure games, he won’t be getting that England shirt.
Go on then, what exactly did Max 'bottle'? Crazy comment isn’t it. Max who was faultless under high ball and took every one under pressure even. Put in a cracking pass to send Walmsley in, cleared up danger a few times clearing the ball with pressure from oncoming chasers. Good defence and poked his nose through the line a few times running back. A display like that is more likely to get Wane to notice him. The way he moves players in defence and manages the line is excellent. It’s not a crazy comment. In high pressure games vs the Hull clubs and Saints he’s often lacked concentration in key points or missed an easy kick. Don’t get me wrong he’s a SL quality fullback but tonight his defence on the try line was weak, something that’d get even more exposed against the Aussies. Even commentators said it wasn’t Jowitt. Jowitt held O Connor up and covered ball at same time. What were the other two players doing? I feel it’s any excuse to jump on Max and there’s some ready to go in with the knives. He’s not going to go through the season faultless and even the best fullbacks in the NRL and SL done do that. It’s doesn’t stop them getting on the international scene but for Max it’s seemingly not okay for it to happen at all or it’s a big deal. Like I said I think Max is a SL quality fullback and he’s gone very well for this season, just that I can also see why Wane might not be picking him for England yet. Nothing to do with going with knives jeez. I don’t think Max is international class either, he’s not in the same league as Welsby in my opinion. I really like Max, I think he’s a cracking SL player and is the current top point scorer for a reason. However, I felt he did deserve a call up to the larger squad but obviously Wane sees it differently. I will be very very confident of seeing Johnstone and big Mike representing us in the ashes. |
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Got to be the best we have played for a long time. Was a credit to rugby league that two teams could go toe to toe with each other for 80 minutes, and the penalty count ,was so low for both teams ,Just two teams giving 100%
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| Trojan Horse:PopTart:Trojan Horse:1315trinity:Willzay:
Until Max stops bottling the high pressure games, he won’t be getting that England shirt.
Go on then, what exactly did Max 'bottle'? Crazy comment isn’t it. Max who was faultless under high ball and took every one under pressure even. Put in a cracking pass to send Walmsley in, cleared up danger a few times clearing the ball with pressure from oncoming chasers. Good defence and poked his nose through the line a few times running back. A display like that is more likely to get Wane to notice him. The way he moves players in defence and manages the line is excellent. Unfortunately I understand what he means. All the great things he does makes him an outstanding player for us.But Wane will see the two tries where, not just him, but he let players wriggle free and score on the line. There were 4 other players just as responsible if not more for the try’s. Nikotemo joining and not covering ball and Smith failing to tackle Lisone letting him run up to the line for example. So he’s got to go the whole season not making a single error or he’s cooked? Plenty of England players make the odd error. Wellsby, French and others do. I think that our fans are way too harsh on Max and because he makes very few errors the small amount he does gets elevated. Max wasn’t responsible or at least fully responsible for the try’s at all. He held up O’Connor and got his hand under the ball too. Like the commentators said the other players should have done better like Nikotemo joining after and not covering the ball. Lisone ran straight at Smith which changed his trajectory and I don’t think anyone in SL would have stopped that try. That wasn’t solely max either. I said pre match Lisone will run at Smith end of 1st half for a try. Powell should have taken Smith off as soon as Lisone came on. Honestly I think our fans can be way too harsh on Max who’s very good week in week out. You don't have to be so dramatic. No one is saying the tries were his fault alone, or that he isn't a great player. He is an exceptional player All I'm saying is those moments on the goal line are moments that an International coach will register. Hardaker wouldn't have let him wriggle free, nor would Welsby. Max does things they don't but in that example he wasn't as good, and it gets noticed. If we want to help him get a call up we need to be in the 6 so he has a chance to show his skills more often in big games. |
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How did Jayden Myers play? I saw he was on the wing, IMO he's better in the centres but has plenty of competition.
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How did Jayden Myers play? I saw he was on the wing, IMO he's better in the centres but has plenty of competition.
He went really well. Leeds targeted him with high kicks but he took them like a full back. Defensively he was sound, he ran the ball out well but didn't really get chance to show his attacking skills. He's going to be a star. |
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| PopTart:Trojan Horse:PopTart:Trojan Horse:1315trinity:Willzay:
Until Max stops bottling the high pressure games, he won’t be getting that England shirt.
Go on then, what exactly did Max 'bottle'? Crazy comment isn’t it. Max who was faultless under high ball and took every one under pressure even. Put in a cracking pass to send Walmsley in, cleared up danger a few times clearing the ball with pressure from oncoming chasers. Good defence and poked his nose through the line a few times running back. A display like that is more likely to get Wane to notice him. The way he moves players in defence and manages the line is excellent. Unfortunately I understand what he means. All the great things he does makes him an outstanding player for us.But Wane will see the two tries where, not just him, but he let players wriggle free and score on the line. There were 4 other players just as responsible if not more for the try’s. Nikotemo joining and not covering ball and Smith failing to tackle Lisone letting him run up to the line for example. So he’s got to go the whole season not making a single error or he’s cooked? Plenty of England players make the odd error. Wellsby, French and others do. I think that our fans are way too harsh on Max and because he makes very few errors the small amount he does gets elevated. Max wasn’t responsible or at least fully responsible for the try’s at all. He held up O’Connor and got his hand under the ball too. Like the commentators said the other players should have done better like Nikotemo joining after and not covering the ball. Lisone ran straight at Smith which changed his trajectory and I don’t think anyone in SL would have stopped that try. That wasn’t solely max either. I said pre match Lisone will run at Smith end of 1st half for a try. Powell should have taken Smith off as soon as Lisone came on. Honestly I think our fans can be way too harsh on Max who’s very good week in week out. You don't have to be so dramatic. No one is saying the tries were his fault alone, or that he isn't a great player. He is an exceptional player All I'm saying is those moments on the goal line are moments that an International coach will register. Hardaker wouldn't have let him wriggle free, nor would Welsby. Max does things they don't but in that example he wasn't as good, and it gets noticed. If we want to help him get a call up we need to be in the 6 so he has a chance to show his skills more often in big games. I know he’s been an absolute weapon but Zak has been a very good player and quality FB. |
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I think I'd like to see anyone on here preventing the first Leeds try- the guys a tank and you need three fowards in front of him to stop him! no blame on Max for that one surely!
The second one - it happens- it was stoppable but Max, as others have pointed out, wasn't to blame alone!
Whether he plays for the national team, I couldn't personally give two hoots, but I think wane will in any
Case look at the bigger picture. IMO MJ is bettered by no-one in SL for creating chances for others.
Welsby is good at doing stuff for himself.
It's all based on opinion
I'm still chuffed we have the first player to score 500 points in a season playing for us- nobody can do that again for the first time!
I think he can justifiably be disappointed he wasn't called into tbe national squad at least.
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I thought we won but looking at some of the posts it sounds like we lost. What does it matter who played and how all that counts is the final score.
With regards the internationals Wane will select the usual even if they are currently not even guaranteed to be fit to play. I see he is at tonight’s game I wonder if he crossed the Pennines yesterday to see our game live.
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I thought we won but looking at some of the posts it sounds like we lost. What does it matter who played and how all that counts is the final score.
With regards the internationals Wane will select the usual even if they are currently not even guaranteed to be fit to play. I see he is at tonight’s game I wonder if he crossed the Pennines yesterday to see our game live.
Give it a rest, we just beat the inform team at presents and we got fans picking out Wakefield players to have a go at .Got to admit four of the last 5 trys we have conceded have been down to defending on our own line .,but if we noticed this ,so will the Coaches .But after a performance like last night ,how any fan can come on here and knock the team is unbelievable .Waiting for the ,only reason we won was because Bentley took out Conner with a fist |
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I thought we won but looking at some of the posts it sounds like we lost. What does it matter who played and how all that counts is the final score.
With regards the internationals Wane will select the usual even if they are currently not even guaranteed to be fit to play. I see he is at tonight’s game I wonder if he crossed the Pennines yesterday to see our game live.
Give it a rest, we just beat the inform team at presents and we got fans picking out Wakefield players to have a go at .Got to admit four of the last 5 trys we have conceded have been down to defending on our own line .,but if we noticed this ,so will the Coaches .But after a performance like last night ,how any fan can come on here and knock the team is unbelievable .Waiting for the ,only reason we won was because Bentley took out Conner with a fist I think you need to read my post again then come back. |
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| PopTart:Trojan Horse:PopTart:Trojan Horse:1315trinity:Willzay:
Until Max stops bottling the high pressure games, he won’t be getting that England shirt.
Go on then, what exactly did Max 'bottle'? Crazy comment isn’t it. Max who was faultless under high ball and took every one under pressure even. Put in a cracking pass to send Walmsley in, cleared up danger a few times clearing the ball with pressure from oncoming chasers. Good defence and poked his nose through the line a few times running back. A display like that is more likely to get Wane to notice him. The way he moves players in defence and manages the line is excellent. Unfortunately I understand what he means. All the great things he does makes him an outstanding player for us.But Wane will see the two tries where, not just him, but he let players wriggle free and score on the line. There were 4 other players just as responsible if not more for the try’s. Nikotemo joining and not covering ball and Smith failing to tackle Lisone letting him run up to the line for example. So he’s got to go the whole season not making a single error or he’s cooked? Plenty of England players make the odd error. Wellsby, French and others do. I think that our fans are way too harsh on Max and because he makes very few errors the small amount he does gets elevated. Max wasn’t responsible or at least fully responsible for the try’s at all. He held up O’Connor and got his hand under the ball too. Like the commentators said the other players should have done better like Nikotemo joining after and not covering the ball. Lisone ran straight at Smith which changed his trajectory and I don’t think anyone in SL would have stopped that try. That wasn’t solely max either. I said pre match Lisone will run at Smith end of 1st half for a try. Powell should have taken Smith off as soon as Lisone came on. Honestly I think our fans can be way too harsh on Max who’s very good week in week out. You don't have to be so dramatic. No one is saying the tries were his fault alone, or that he isn't a great player. He is an exceptional player All I'm saying is those moments on the goal line are moments that an International coach will register. Hardaker wouldn't have let him wriggle free, nor would Welsby. Max does things they don't but in that example he wasn't as good, and it gets noticed. If we want to help him get a call up we need to be in the 6 so he has a chance to show his skills more often in big games. Struggle with the "Hardaker wouldn't have let him wriggle free, nor would Welsby" when if you go through the last 12 month of games, you would likely see multiple tries where Welsby or Hardaker or any other fullback in the league for that matter get undone on the line by a forward... It`s a relatively common occurrence and I would bet if you put them in that exact situation where Storton`s is left on the floor at the PTB, you have one marker in Lino who makes the wrong read and pretty much falls off the tackle, which is a poor attempt, then you have Max who joins and Seth being a passenger in the tackle, then he likely scores the try whoever the fullback is. He`s missed a tackle, lets not make it somethings it`s not. |
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Again....no one is saying he had a bad game or that he was to blame for the tries.
Just that 1% plays like that are what Wane looks for. It makes a difference
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