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Quote: Little willy "Finally those thinking Jowitt will save the day are likely to be dissapointed. As an attacking FB and under the high ball Jowitt is first class, but his defence, especially near the line remain very weak IMHO.'"


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As one who wants jowitt reinstated at FB, I don’t think he is perfect, or without fault, simply that he is the best FB on the books.

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Quote: vastman "A couple of weeks ago you’d have agreed with my comment. Now you’ve painted yourself into such a corner the pimp is now your greatest fan. Bit tragic don’t you think?

Be careful the company you keep would be my advise.'"

No what I posted is you get away with comment that I get pulled over the coals for and was aimed at PT, as per usual you stick your nose into what wasn't for you
personally I don't give a toss either way why you think you just have a go at just about every poster who disagrees to what you think

You are a first class A hole if you don't like what post put me on ignore it not shut the frig up

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Quote: Little willy "Finally those thinking Jowitt will save the day are likely to be dissapointed. As an attacking FB and under the high ball Jowitt is first class, but his defence, especially near the line remain very weak IMHO.'"


I can't believe what I've just seen i've been saying this for years & you've tried to be clever saying I don't know what I'm talking about & now you come out with this I've been saying this for years but some fans think he's a god He has no defence at all never has. I may not be that clever but I've seen what's happening with him & it makes my blood boil. Same with TJ I said made of paper & all you said was pathetic sometimes you don't know your booty from your elbow'"
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At least Jowitt get near enough to tacklel Gaskell as never mist a tackel,as he never gets near enough to make one

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Quote: snowie "No what I posted is you get away with comment that I get pulled over the coals for and was aimed at PT, as per usual you stick your nose into what wasn't for you
personally I don't give a toss either way why you think you just have a go at just about every poster who disagrees to what you think

You are a first class A hole if you don't like what post put me on ignore it not shut the frig up'"


You make me laugh you really do. Your one of those who think they have a god given right to spout any old crap they want, especially when they are in a mood.

Someone like me challenges them and they can’t bear it. Suddenly they get nasty like you always do. Your just a big man baby who can give it but can’t take it.

Truth is there are very few people on here I’ve ever seriously argued with despite your silly attempts to claim otherwise.

Most people either like what I post or totally ignore it because they don’t like what I post. There is a choice. This is a forum, the whole idea is that people can post anonymously view that they can’t do normally within the rules of the board obviously.

If it’s any consultation I don’t mind you, mainly because I don’t know you as indeed you don’t know me so why make it personal? most of what you post is sound enough. It’s only when your obvious bitterness about something, no idea what it is, seeps in. Then you are a monumental pain on here.

Now if you’ll excuse me I’ll get back to my breakfast.

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Quote: 1315trinity "

Don’t get me wrong, I agree he’s our best FB.

What I’m saying is that he is imho not the kind of FB who will bolster a defence, it’s not the strong point of his game. However he will still do better than Gaskell.

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Jowitts defence has been suspect ever since I’ve watched him, but every player in our team has suspect parts of their game. If he was red hot in attack and defence and was the full package he simply wouldn’t be playing for us. I don’t think this knowledge will be alien to either him or the coaches and im sure he’ll work on both this and his positional defending to try and reduce himself in vulnerable positions in defence.

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Quote: vastman "
Do not think there is a fullback in S L that is in for is tackling .

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There is no question that the role of full back has changed, as have lots of elements evolved in the game. However, I don’t particularly remember many moments where MJ pulled off a brilliant tackle that saved the game ( or the alleged God Rocky). We had some players in the past who lacked pace and other skills but their “last line of defence” was memorable and snuffed out line breaks as a result. Gaskell is 100% not that man.

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Quote: Pat Bateman "Jowitts defence has been suspect ever since I’ve watched him, but every player in our team has suspect parts of their game. If he was red hot in attack and defence and was the full package he simply wouldn’t be playing for us. I don’t think this knowledge will be alien to either him or the coaches and im sure he’ll work on both this and his positional defending to try and reduce himself in vulnerable positions in defence.'"


Agreed

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Quote: Manuel "There is no question that the role of full back has changed, as have lots of elements evolved in the game. However, I don’t particularly remember many moments where MJ pulled off a brilliant tackle that saved the game ( or the alleged God Rocky). We had some players in the past who lacked pace and other skills but their “last line of defence” was memorable and snuffed out line breaks as a result. Gaskell is 100% not that man.'"


Martin Holland was the last FB we had whose tackling was outstanding and whose attacking game was reasonable.

Since then most of our FB's have been attacking based and their defence has been moderate to poor IMHO.

You can see WP's logic in using a creative player in the FB role. Sadly I don't think he is proving any more creative than Jowitt and defensively is not just worse but far worse. If it was an experiment then fine but it didn't work and needs to stop if Poching wants to keep the fans onside. There is a time to stick to your guns as a coach but this imo isn't one.

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Quote: alegend " Do not think there is a fullback in S L that is in for is tackling



Got to agree with that.

Last two I can think of were Keith Mumby at Northern and George Fairburn at HKR and that was well pre Super League.

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Agree about Holland but I reckon you have to go back to Geoff Wraith for a master of both attack and defence.

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Quote: LyndsayGill "

Pre SL, as I said Martin Holland. Garry Spencer was pretty good.

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Spencer was excellent but just a bit lacking in pace.

Regarding George Fairburn: Brian Juliff steamrollered him three times scoring a hat-trick at Wigan back in the day.

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