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| Quote: homme vaste "Not sure it`s quite as simple as that old boy, its all about numbers, all about what your inside man is doing, you can`t just pin in on one player without looking at individual scenarios as they happen, I am sure Bill does get it wrong but there is obviously a reason he comes in and commits to a man and I don`t think he is particularly any worse for it than Lyne or Arundel.'"
A winger left on the own usually starts in the middle.
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| Quote: PopTart "A winger left on the own usually starts in the middle.'"
Exactly, as I say it`s all about numbers and its never easy to pinpoint exactly where it goes wrong, exactly for a fan watching the game at full speed, I would bet in the video review as you say we have got it wrong 3 or 4 men in from the centre.
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| Quote: homme vaste "Not sure it`s quite as simple as that old boy, its all about numbers, all about what your inside man is doing, you can`t just pin in on one player without looking at individual scenarios as they happen, I am sure Bill does get it wrong but there is obviously a reason he comes in and commits to a man and I don`t think he is particularly any worse for it than Lyne or Arundel.'"
Never said that wasn’t the case... I actually think whilst it looks like Bill shot out of the line for the Mano try, it was actually because we were never set correctly when the ball was played subsequently leaving us on the back foot and giving Warrington the numbers.
I was simply pointing out that Bill does get it wrong, as you confirmed. Maybe I shouldn’t of said “so often”...
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| The best and worse things for us were both out wide for me
Charney went through Kaye and Kaye should have s ored, but equally Kaye did some good runs and got us out of trouble
Kershaw should have got with Max on his break and should have scored a couple of times and should have killed the ball on the scramble try but equally he defended the high ball well and got us off our line and took his try really well.
I just felt if TJ or even BJB were on either wing we'd have converted some of those chances.
There was a lot of good on the field tonight but we just made too many errors which cost us a lot of field position.
It was always going to be a difficult game and we were still getting something at the end.
Learn and move on to Cas.
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| Quote: PopTart "The best and worse things for us were both out wide for me
Charney went through Kaye and Kaye should have s ored, but equally Kaye did some good runs and got us out of trouble
Kershaw should have got with Max on his break and should have scored a couple of times and should have killed the ball on the scramble try but equally he defended the high ball well and got us off our line and took his try really well.
I just felt if TJ or even BJB were on either wing we'd have converted some of those chances.
There was a lot of good on the field tonight but we just made too many errors which cost us a lot of field position.
It was always going to be a difficult game and we were still getting something at the end.
Learn and move on to Cas.'"
Sadly often the case with the Trin but as you say, on to Cas!
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| Defensive frailties apart ,we looked really good going forwards when we moved the ball down the line ,but far too often we reverted back to one out rugby which the wires easily defended against .Not having a pop at the big bopper here as he took his try well but was doing an awful lot of the walking with ball in hand stuff , that may work on lesser teams but not the bigger ones . Top teams will always punish you for your mistakes and indiscretions and that’s what happened tonight .Take it onboard and move on and hopefully lessons learnt.
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| Bad day at the office, move on to next week. Hope the injuries are nothing that will keep anyone out.
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| Quote: Sacred Cow "Bad day at the office, move on to next week. Hope the injuries are nothing that will keep anyone out.'"
I fear Reece’s might leave him on the sideline for a few weeks, shame after today’s news about the England side.
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| Didn’t see the game so can’t really comment, sounds like we had plenty of opportunities to score more points, though letting any team score that many points isn’t good enough, especially how well our defence has been in recent weeks. Onwards and upwards to Cas!
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| Quote: FIL "At least Salford are getting stuffed ....and Pauli Pauli has just been sent off !!!!'"
I thought PP was a bit unlucky with that.
I probably wouldn't have even given a penalty.
The first sin bin I thought was a bit tight too.
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| It looked worse as per usual in slow motion because it clearly wasn’t a shoulder charge nor particularly late at real speed.
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| Quote: TimmySmith "Bill shoots out of the line so often however it’s a problem we’ve had right back to the Vince Mellars days. Leaves the winger looking poor in defence when there’s not much they can actually do.'"
Yep, 4 try’s on the left today? Ultimately the difference. Bill has been fantastic the last 2 games but he was too eager and shot out leaving Kay high and dry a few times. Another time he’d planted his feet in the ground which didn’t help either. We just need to go back to what we were doing right in defence. We didn’t have the intensity today and were very reserved in working off the ball too (chasing the kicker down etc).
We are much better than we showed today and bill is a much better player than he showed today.
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "That unforced error by Lino really took the game away from us.'"
As did the forward pass from Westerman after a quality break and wire under all sorts of pressure. In reality it was how we started that cost us today. 14 point we gave them before we woke up. I’d also look at the left edge defence that leaked 4 try’s at least.
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| Chester says Tanginoa, Ashurst and TJ will all play Wednesday and Westerman and Lyne came off for precautions and will be fine.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "Yep, 4 try’s on the left today? Ultimately the difference. Bill has been fantastic the last 2 games but he was too eager and shot out leaving Kay high and dry a few times. Another time he’d planted his feet in the ground which didn’t help either. We just need to go back to what we were doing right in defence. We didn’t have the intensity today and were very reserved in working off the ball too (chasing the kicker down etc).
We are much better than we showed today and bill is a much better player than he showed today.'"
Spot on assessment , we just can’t keep the consistency of our best performance going . For me if we could have played at the Hudds or HKR intensity it would have looked a whole different game and scoreline .
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