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Some very bitter people on here innit, oh for the good old days when folk talked rugby icon_biggrin.gif

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One thing I will add here, which reading back, I don't recall anyone has mentioned yet, is the money we find into the EU. I believe in 2018, it was something like 16 billion GBP.

If and when we leave, we wont be doing this.

Maybe, that money were saving will be put to good use, like pumping more into the NHS, and putting more into the police force.

As for the homeless people, maybe some of these buildings,that are derelict, in all towns and cities could they maybe transformed into hostels for the homeless. Just a thought. There is also the argument about those who are genuinely homeless, such as the lady in Wakefield who has been recently found out.

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Quote: TrinityDave "You do realise that Wakefield is in the top 5 for cuts from this tory government, which has led to it going to rack n ruin. And what do Wakefield people do, vote tory for even more cuts to our city’s funding, you couldn’t make it up

I didn't realise that there was a league table for 'cuts' in budgets where can I see this I'm keen to see the top four but maybe the low end of the table would be the more interesting read.

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Quote: little wayne69 "Some very bitter people on here innit, oh for the good old days when folk talked rugby
I’m dismayed at what’s happened to this country over the last few years. The inability to accept defeat is sickening. It started with the Scottish referendum and has got worse since.

A majority is a majority that’s how democracy works, it’s simple.

People seem to want their own mini democracy in which their candidate is the only winner, pathetic.

So what do we end up with. A minority of people who think it’s more important to sabotage all things Boris even if it makes things far worse.

The result is the result and it’s a resounding one. We are leaving Europe, we have five years of Tory rule. You can fight it like some child or get on with it and make the best of it. In five years time you’ll get another chance, that’s how it works. People in this country have become utterly self righteous and need to grow up.

I didn’t vote Tory for the record.

Up the Trin

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I blame the bad loser attitude on taking competition away from kids.

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Quote: Fishermanscap "I’m dismayed at what’s happened to this country over the last few years. The inability to accept defeat is sickening. It started with the Scottish referendum and has got worse since.

A majority is a majority that’s how democracy works, it’s simple.

People seem to want their own mini democracy in which their candidate is the only winner, pathetic.

So what do we end up with. A minority of people who think it’s more important to sabotage all things Boris even if it makes things far worse.

The result is the result and it’s a resounding one. We are leaving Europe, we have five years of Tory rule. You can fight it like some child or get on with it and make the best of it. In five years time you’ll get another chance, that’s how it works. People in this country have become utterly self righteous and need to grow up.

I didn’t vote Tory for the record.

Up the Trin'"

A well reasoned post, it's a pity others can't accept the will of the majority, it's done now and it's time to move on otherwise the next 5 years will just make them bitter and resentful.

I did not vote and for the record have never done, so I have no regrets when I get let down and disappointed with false promises, and as for most politicians that old saying you can always tell when they're lying when their lips move comes into my thoughts when you see them spouting their rhetoric.

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Quote: inside man "I blame the bad loser attitude on taking competition away from kids.'"


Not sure if you're joking but you're right as it happens.

The ridiculously liberal education system of the past 40 years, yes even in Thatcher's day has given people a monstrous sense of entitlement.

Everyone should have a dream and aim for that dream and settle for nothing less, utter nonsense, in the real world there are simply not enough 'dream' lives to go around. All is possible if you just believe, see above. Don't let anyone tell you no, a self evidently stupid assertion, as they will because they can and sometimes they can hurt you really bad if you do. All is possible with effort, no it's not, sadly you also need so much more to be a real success like actual talent, common sense and a nice dollop of luck....and so on.

We need to start educating people for life again not for a Disney fantasy epic. You want a gender realignment you have it when your 18 and when you might just know what you really think, just an example I could give dozens more.

One day if we are not careful the flawed wonders of Western civilisation and democracy will crumble without people even noticing. What they will notice is what replaces it and by then it will be too late. We need to toughen up, not become hard or mean but just realistic,

A bit deep I know, up the Trin icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Fishermanscap "Not sure if you're joking but you're right as it happens.

The ridiculously liberal education system of the past 40 years, yes even in Thatcher's day has given people a monstrous sense of entitlement.

Everyone should have a dream and aim for that dream and settle for nothing less, utter nonsense, in the real world there are simply not enough 'dream' lives to go around. All is possible if you just believe, see above. Don't let anyone tell you no, a self evidently stupid assertion, as they will because they can and sometimes they can hurt you really bad if you do. All is possible with effort, no it's not, sadly you also need so much more to be a real success like actual talent, common sense and a nice dollop of luck....and so on.

We need to start educating people for life again not for a Disney fantasy epic. You want a gender realignment you have it when your 18 and when you might just know what you really think, just an example I could give dozens more.

One day if we are not careful the flawed wonders of Western civilisation and democracy will crumble without people even noticing. What they will notice is what replaces it and by then it will be too late. We need to toughen up, not become hard or mean but just realistic,

A bit deep I know, up the Trin
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Quote: Fishermanscap "I’m dismayed at what’s happened to this country over the last few years. The inability to accept defeat is sickening. It started with the Scottish referendum and has got worse since.

A majority is a majority that’s how democracy works, it’s simple.

People seem to want their own mini democracy in which their candidate is the only winner, pathetic.

So what do we end up with. A minority of people who think it’s more important to sabotage all things Boris even if it makes things far worse.

The result is the result and it’s a resounding one. We are leaving Europe, we have five years of Tory rule. You can fight it like some child or get on with it and make the best of it. In five years time you’ll get another chance, that’s how it works. People in this country have become utterly self righteous and need to grow up.

I didn’t vote Tory for the record.

Up the Trin'"


Just about sums it up. eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Fishermanscap "I’m dismayed at what’s happened to this country over the last few years. The inability to accept defeat is sickening. It started with the Scottish referendum and has got worse since.

A majority is a majority that’s how democracy works, it’s simple.

People seem to want their own mini democracy in which their candidate is the only winner, pathetic.

So what do we end up with. A minority of people who think it’s more important to sabotage all things Boris even if it makes things far worse.

The result is the result and it’s a resounding one. We are leaving Europe, we have five years of Tory rule. You can fight it like some child or get on with it and make the best of it. In five years time you’ll get another chance, that’s how it works. People in this country have become utterly self righteous and need to grow up.

I didn’t vote Tory for the record.

Up the Trin'"
I only hope they allow them now to get on with governing the country, ever since bojo got in it was just one thing after another blocking any move to govern which led to the re-election and the country spoke again,
I wish we'd get someone in that was strong enough to bring back the death penalty so we could save money on ridding some of the scum in this country that that thinks its ok the murder people

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Quote: snowie "I only hope they allow them now to get on with governing the country, ever since bojo got in it was just one thing after another blocking any move to govern which led to the re-election and the country spoke again,
I wish we'd get someone in that was strong enough to bring back the death penalty so we could save money on ridding some of the scum in this country that that thinks its ok the murder people'"

eusa_clap.gif be careful Snowie mate you’ll upset the righteous

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I agree with him BLM, for certain crimes, why should us, the tax payer, pay to keep them.

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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "I agree with him BLM, for certain crimes, why should us, the tax payer, pay to keep them.'"

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Quote: Fishermanscap "Not sure if you're joking but you're right as it happens.

The ridiculously liberal education system of the past 40 years, yes even in Thatcher's day has given people a monstrous sense of entitlement.

Everyone should have a dream and aim for that dream and settle for nothing less, utter nonsense, in the real world there are simply not enough 'dream' lives to go around. All is possible if you just believe, see above. Don't let anyone tell you no, a self evidently stupid assertion, as they will because they can and sometimes they can hurt you really bad if you do. All is possible with effort, no it's not, sadly you also need so much more to be a real success like actual talent, common sense and a nice dollop of luck....and so on.

We need to start educating people for life again not for a Disney fantasy epic. You want a gender realignment you have it when your 18 and when you might just know what you really think, just an example I could give dozens more.

One day if we are not careful the flawed wonders of Western civilisation and democracy will crumble without people even noticing. What they will notice is what replaces it and by then it will be too late. We need to toughen up, not become hard or mean but just realistic,

A bit deep I know, up the Trin
They don't know the meaning of losing and fighting back.

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Brexiters want to take the country back to the 50s and now some on here want to bring back hanging. I despair. And how anybody in their right mind can think for one millisecond that the Tories in general and Johnson in particular give even one tiny fraction of a flying f.. K about places such as Blyth Valley, Workington, Dewsbury and Wakefield is beyond me. For just one example of their mindset look at how disabled and seriously ill people have been forced to work and/or denied benefits. Being callous and uncaring of the vulnerable, sick, less able and plain unlucky is hard wired in to Tory DNA. I guarantee that all those people who think they've been ignored and left behind are going to be sorely disappointed. Sorry.

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