Finally (along with a couple of others) can see what I'm saying and doesn't resort to to calling me petty and talking about Connor (which I'm n sure has to do with this)

Agreed on other points,

What did raise my eyebrow a bit was when he was asked about looking forward to pre season training and he seemed to brush over the subject not the usual “can’t wait to rip into it “or words to that affect .likes been said a quality player who will only enhance our on field capability if his attitude and fitness are right .

I think we should all try to allow players who sign for Trinity, to start with a clean slate. To me, it doesn’t matter what reputation they have at previous clubs, it’s how they preform in a Trinity shirt. Give them a chance and we judge them as a Trinity player, not on previous reputations.

Shame you don’t defend me and a few Trinity fans with the same gusto, but hey we move on.

My missus always gives me a load of stick when we sign someone who I've slagged off prior to signature because all of a sudden I love 'em. Broughy being a good recent example.

There are some players out there who would take some acceptance though. Hardaker being a good example. Would never want us to take Greg Johnsone back.

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Agree. Let's see how he goes. Will have my full support in the RW and B.

Not having a dig but back on topic.

The more I look at this signing the better it looks.

I had the impression Westerman was a bit of a loose cannon off the pitch, yet other than hearsay I see little real evidence unless I've missed some court case or similar?

He's actually only 29 will be 30 at the start of the season, probably past his very best but hardly past it as I thought he was.

He's also very versatile which tends to negate the age issue.

Also, he's not had that many clubs, the vast majority of his games at Cas and especially Hull, only Toronto stands out as a real oddity. So he must be a reasonably easy player to manage.

His stats are,

SL games - 320
Tries - 95
Points - 849

At first glance, not to be sniffed at. It's taken the best part of 11 years to finally get the lad and I'm fully accepting that it could all go horribly wrong but then that applies to most signings but I'm beginning to like this signing. At the end of the day we have the cover in those positions should it go bums up.

From an `off the pitch` perspective - He has settled down a lot recently, helped by the fact he has become a dad, yes he enjoys a quite beer in his local but nowhere near the heights of the past.

You should wait for the "mad monday" story to come out.

That applies to most of us, just getting there myself

Hulls or ours?

Do tell.