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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "You may be right, but I think you are wrong. The Newmarket saga continues. The Trust said recently they will continue to object to all planning applications for the Newmarket site. I attended the Kitwave planning meeting and was encouraged by some councillors who objected to the application and spoke out about the actions of Yorkcourt in this stadium affair. The Trust and supporters will continue to object until Yorkcourt provide funding for a community stadium/facilities as promised to the Secretary of State and citizens of Wakefield. I’m sure all of us will continue our support for the Trust and club in achieving their objective.
Thank you'"
Now that WMDC are playing ball, it does seem to expose Yorkcourt, who, quite clearly dont intend to contribute to any community facilities.
If there was any justice in the world, they would be prevented from laying another brick at Newmarket until there was full unequivocal commitment from them to do so.
They (Yorkcourt) appear to have got away with murder and despite benefitting from the white box construction and land being pulled out of green belt, primarily to facilitate the building of a community stadium, they are still putting 2 fingers up to the city of Wakefield.
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Think this is good news after what has been, a very long journey indeed, though still a long way to go in the process.
I do think it would cost considerably more than the £3.15m to re vamp the stadium fully.
I just wish, If anything, we did this sooner, before 88m got involved.
Well done all concerned, with the club, and the proper trust'"
Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it? I agree we should have been the party buying the Superbowl site and the ground instead of 88M as I don't think they paid anywhere near £3m to buy them, but sadly we were misled by people who supposedly had our interests at heart and convinced not to bid for them initially.
Now we have Yorkcourt making huge profits at Newmarket and 88M making a tidy sum from Belle Vue. Despite promises and snippets from both neither are going to have contributed anything.
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| From what I have read my take is that all anyone knows on here is that we have been "loaned" 3.5m to buy the site from WMDC. No-one appears to know anything else regarding when / if development will take place, if there is anything else regarding funding in place or even if plans have been drawn up. There's a hell of a lot of doom and gloom around (Hardly surprising tbh) but why don't we wait and see what statement the club puts out regarding the future plans before we all jump off the nearest cliff! We've been waiting 15 years if not more, a couple of months more won't hurt, will it?
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| Step in the right direction, but still alot of unanswered questions about how the redevelopment is to be funded. Can't really blame the 'doom and gloomers' for being pessimistic still - if we'd happily gone along with everything the council said we wouldn't have even got this far. Nice to see the Council haven't wasted any time putting this out to the media before anything is set in stone, like 'hey look, we're thinking about loaning them money to buy their ground back despite them threatening to take us to court...so we do care!' Nice one Denise!
Anyway, looking forward to hearing more on the redevelopment front.
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| The press release says "IN PRINCIPLE " how many times have we seen the council use that term.
Just hope this time they are honourable.
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| Didn’t the chairman say to only believe what comes from the club or something of that ilk? I’m not celebrating anything until MC says the land is owned by the trust/club.
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| Can somebody remind me please - what were the reasons given for the club not to bid for the ground when it was up for sale?
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| Quote: Kevs Head "Can somebody remind me please - what were the reasons given for the club not to bid for the ground when it was up for sale?'"
Because SRW told them not to.
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| Quote: Kevs Head "Can somebody remind me please - what were the reasons given for the club not to bid for the ground when it was up for sale?'"
Advise by Rodney Walker not to, allegedly, so that Yorkcourt could buy it. They offered a derisory amount which left the door open for 88m to step in and make a quick profit.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Advise by Rodney Walker not to, allegedly, so that Yorkcourt could buy it. They offered a derisory amount which left the door open for 88m to step in and make a quick profit.'"
I thought the issue was them (Yorkcourt) not coming up with the deposit and thus allowing the second placed bidder 88M to step in ??
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| Quote: Mable_Syrup "Didn’t the chairman say to only believe what comes from the club or something of that ilk? I’m not celebrating anything until MC says the land is owned by the trust/club.'"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I await news from the club not the council
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| Quote: snowie "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I await news from the club not the council'"
The chairman is quoted in the press release.
Quote: snowie "John Minards, Wakefield Trinity Chairman, said
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| They WILL be the owners. Not ARE the owners. As I said, I’m not celebrating until it’s confirmed. Lots can happen like it did At Newmarket. There’s be no talk if it or announcement on Trinity social media, so I guess it’s just watch this space.
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| How strange some things seem & probably are, as I have been led to understand the loan from w.m.d.c. is for
3.2 million to buy the stadium & land from 88m but that wakefield trinity will not own it as a club, the community
Trust will own it with trinity paying rent which would be less than the current rent paid to 88m but that money size of rent would enable the trust to pay off the loan the loan being agreed in a fixed sum & term time. This would prevent future owner chairman's from doing what previous owners have sold the ground - profiteering etc.
Further to this the trust can access grants & loans for other users to utilize the community facilities.
However there still is the problem of major capital to demolish & build etc.
We all may be asked to help raise some funds in particular funds for a gym type provision similar to featherstones.
88m have made a good profit after purchase price, demolitioning, setting & filling levels, planning + drawing developments even though they have not come to fruition. In truth mani stands to make circa 1.5m profit which is
Not his fault, he has played a massive part on patience etc.
So onward & upwards i say, let's still support our trinity & to get this right if possible.
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| Quote: TrinTrin "How strange some things seem & probably are, as I have been led to understand the loan from w.m.d.c. is for
3.2 million to buy the stadium & land from 88m but that wakefield trinity will not own it as a club, the community
Trust will own it with trinity paying rent which would be less than the current rent paid to 88m but that money size of rent would enable the trust to pay off the loan the loan being agreed in a fixed sum & term time. This would prevent future owner chairman's from doing what previous owners have sold the ground - profiteering etc.
Further to this the trust can access grants & loans for other users to utilize the community facilities.
However there still is the problem of major capital to demolish & build etc.
We all may be asked to help raise some funds in particular funds for a gym type provision similar to featherstones.
88m have made a good profit after purchase price, demolitioning, setting & filling levels, planning + drawing developments even though they have not come to fruition. In truth mani stands to make circa 1.5m profit which is
Not his fault, he has played a massive part on patience etc.
So onward & upwards i say let's still support our trinity & to get this right if possible.'"
Seems good to me if the ground will be owned by the trust.
As far as raising money for facilities is concerned I'm sure there would be support amongst fans to do this but that would be peanuts compared to what is really required . I wander where that money is coming from?
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