You seem to think that, most supporters here know what's going on and have been through enough disappointment. Don't think anyone in this thread has mentioned being top 4, we're way off that. But you seem to need to come onto another clubs' board to express your opinion.

That's a bit harsh scraping the barrel, I'd put you a bit above that, though not much you can only play what's in front of you which in our case was very little, still a wins a win as William Shakespeare used to say, even though as you rightly say we had quite a few key players out.

for some reason we have had some very narrow defeats that could of gone the our way, that too with a couple dire games we should of had our position safe by now, I would say we have under achieved this year and yes we are looking over our shoulders.

no panic as yet as they have to catch us

Bottom of the league. Again.

Anyway, moving on from the Scouse kid who's skipped school (no surprise there) -

Matty Ashurst comes in for Chris Annakin in the only change to the 19.

Wigan 19

Bateman
Clubb
Davies
Escare
Farrell
Flower
Gildart
Hamlin
Isa
Leuluai
Marshall
Navarrete
O'Loughlin
Powell
Sarginson
Tautai
S Tomkins
Williams
Woods

We've lost four of those games by less than six points per game, you can only wish you were that awful silly person

Any chance you can return my hubcaps when youre done on here?

You are denis betts and you can claim your bag of sour grapes

Funny that Betts gets sacked so has some spare time on his hands then all of a sudden a Widnes fan jumps on here?

He can't be Dennis Betts, and Jonno the dingbat, aaaaand the CalmdownCalmdownViking....all at the same time ffsake

I mean, he might have a job

ya never know

DB would have every right to have sour grapes, after all our club sacked the wrong person in my opinion, should have been James Rule. Betts never had the support he should have and will show to be a top coach with the right backing from a good board.

However as I was saying, you will be well beaten by Wigan on Thursday night was my point. I can really only see you winning 2 of your remaining games before the split and that`s Catalan and us at your place. Sorry, just been honest, I think you are relying a lot on the bottom 4 staying as dreadful as they have been and not picking up any points. 8th is what you should be keeping your fingers crossed for this season as if you get dragged into the middle 8s it will be real tough this season. You are overachieving as it is yet you still are not happy, you wasnt even happy last season even though it will probably be the best season you have.

Yes, we are at the bottom of the table but as I said our fans are not delusional we know exactly where we are at, not to say we are not frustrated but it is what it is.

Betts is an abysmal coach. A friend who played under him at Widnes describes him as totally clueless.


I hear Wayne Bennett insisted he was replaced, if he was to continue to be Head Coach for England.

"A friend" yeah, sure devil boy. He is highly regarded in our game by a lot of people so not too sure he is totally clueless.... You could say that Chester is the one who is totally clueless, you have gone downhill ever since Kear left and it is clear to anyone from the outside that he was the main man! Yet none of your fans will ever say that. How he could take a side playing fantastic rugby last year, add a few quality players the season after and then drain the life out of them and forget how to actually play is beyond me! As I say, clear as day.

Who did you hear that from another friend that played under Wayne Bennett at Brisbane?

A second video has surfaced in which Joel behaves even worse. Its only his brother Sam thats gone and posted it on his twitter feed. Have that Bro.

Calm down, calm down Scouse Viking.

Out of curiosity Scouse Viking, where was Kear when we went on a run of winning something like 8 in 9, and got to a challenge cup semi, in 2016