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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Win that and you are two games from Wembley. You arent quite good enough to mount a serious top 4 challenge but you certainly are good enough to win a couple of one offs. I know survival is paramount for you guys, but you look safely in the top 8 to me. Chester saying it isnt a priority is just deflecting from a poor result imo.
That said anyone who wants him out now needs to give their head a bang.'"
Chester emphasised "our" priorities before the cup exit, which was poor form.
Every head coach in every sport should be putting out a positive idea on winning the next game and should never infer that a game is unimportant, apart from the week before a cup final.
Surely we would have been better placed throwing all that we could at the cup game and trying to build some confidence.
The most disappointing aspect of last night was just how little Huddersfield had to do to win the game.
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| The OP is ridiculous
Chester is a good coach
I do believe that
Although I do think we are missing JK guidance
However we have to get on with out him as JK is in the past
I absolutely loath huddersfield
I was fuming at the loss on Friday on the same level as the sts loss at the end of last year
I've moved on though now to the next match
Let's make sure we get it right at magic though or I will be suicidal
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| can we hang onto the top 8= I am really worried the way we are playing,,,
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| Quote: musson "
I absolutely loath huddersfield
I was fuming at the loss on Friday on the same level as the sts loss at the end of last year
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I'm like that whenever Shudds have a win, regardless of the opponents. Equivalent of something on my shoe.
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| Quote: BOJ042 "can we hang onto the top 8
Do you need a cuddle ?
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| History will judge our coach as to wether he was good or bad for our club at the moment I’ll reserve judgement myself and see how he handles our next few supposedly winnable games .
As we all know coaches come and go , and we’ve had our share in the past , good, bad and indifferent, but for me the priority is to make sure this great club survives super league at all costs .
Without our status in the top flight I fear for the future of our club . Let’s get through this season with as little disruption as possible to staff and players , then regroup and see where we are at , if we need changes then I’m sure mr Carter will do the right thing for the club .
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| I don’t think sacking CC is the answer here but don’t subscribe the view that as supporters we can’t have a grumble nor hold a negative opinion on a player or a coach. There’s been a sanctimonious movement towards supporters somehow thinking they are included in the ‘win as a team lose as a team’ philosophy, people pay their money and they will have their say. Going out of the challenge cup with a barely whimper is not going to result in people coming away happy. For me we just regroup and redouble our efforts on getting top 8.
It’s been said reasonably on here that a good platform for building a successful long term squad is 100 games together, players will come and go but a core remains. I’m willing to go with that theory. I reckon we’re somewhere between half and two thirds of the way through that. Mistakes have been made but we’re always punching above our weight, and always will have to if we’re to be successful – even with a sugar daddy it would take a few years to get up to speed. Deferred gratification Sociologists used to call it, seems a hard thing to sell as instant success is almost demanded in the internet bubble of today. I still think the right man is in charge but there will coming a breaking point even in a long term project.
Currently we’re struggling to nail down consistency in some pivotal positions – this may continue through the season but I think we have enough to hit top 8 at the split and see what we can do from there. I would hope now that that those in control have made some decisions for 2019 on paper, that top 8 place will be critical to early moves being made to improve on what we have.
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| My thoughts exactly Wakefieldwall. Eloquently put too.
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| Quote: PopTart "My thoughts exactly Wakefieldwall. Eloquently put too.'"
Time to kill at work. Thought I'd expand on my initial thoughts of 'shut up you tart'
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| Quote: Willzay "I think the recruitment has been poor this year. Baldwinson not given a chance, Hampshire been hit and miss (not given a chance in his favoured position), and as for Horo and PP, well not much needs to be said about them too.'"
Sorry to jump in on this, but on the Hampshire situation Chester isnt the first coach not to play him at stand off, basically every coach he has had hasn't. Maybe it's him that could be the issue, which is a shame because on potential and our lack of attacking halves in this country he could fill a void
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| I just don't get it. Some results haven't been great, and the occasional performance has been poor, but we have very limited resources and are sitting comfortably in seventh. The six teams above us are all teams we would expect to be above us, with greater resources and much better players. Of that bottom six of the top flight, where we are all similar in terms of expectation, we are the best. We are where we could have realistically have hoped to be.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "I just don't get it. Some results haven't been great, and the occasional performance has been poor, but we have very limited resources and are sitting comfortably in seventh. The six teams above us are all teams we would expect to be above us, with greater resources and much better players. Of that bottom six of the top flight, where we are all similar in terms of expectation, we are the best. We are where we could have realistically have hoped to be.'"
As I've been saying for weeks, I too don't see what the big issue is; we're about where we could reasonably expect to be, given the personnel and resources available to us. Yes we've lost some close games - but our league position is entirely predictable and not in any way a disaster.
Anyone even thinking 'Chester out' is either a moron, or has their expectations entirely skewhiff.
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| Unfortunately the goons calling for Chester's head haven't factored in the fact that a few teams had distinctively average season's last season, that was never gonna carry on. We're where we should be, I believe if Kear was still here we'd probably be a couple of winners better off. Hey ho, next up Shudds.
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| Quote: JINJER "I believe if Kear was still here we'd probably be a couple of winners better off.'"
Genuine, non-snippy question; why - on what basis?
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "I just don't get it. Some results haven't been great, and the occasional performance has been poor, but we have very limited resources and are sitting comfortably in seventh. The six teams above us are all teams we would expect to be above us, with greater resources and much better players. Of that bottom six of the top flight, where we are all similar in terms of expectation, we are the best. We are where we could have realistically have hoped to be.'"
I remember John Kear on Superleague full time after the Hull KR win, responding to a question on how he thinks Wakefield`s season would pan out he said "They will be top 4, without a doubt". Now for me that was a bit far fetched and I was a little surprised how confident he was in this team in all honesty!
My question would be if someone who 1. Knows a hell of a lot about rugby league and super league and 2. Has been with this group of players throughout last season and most of the pre season - If he has these expectations of Wakefield Trinity then how can we call fans for having expectations higher than what we have currently seen this season?
For me, we are probably just below where we should be at - We should have beaten Hudds last week, we have had a few unlucky losses with Hull and Leeds that could have gone either way and Salford.. Well lets not talk about that. I get the optimism and i get the realism and I get the frustrations from some fans, Chester out is not the answer, but I am starting to question what has changed in my mind, the team just are not the same team from last season, could be Kear I dont know, but we now have to work with what we have got and get behind the team.
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