Not being picky jakeyg95 but Grix won't be turning out for England in Melbourne, he's Irish.

Love the way you parasite off the back of others, never got the bottle on your own have you Adam tut tut

You're still wrong on every level doesn't matter how abusive you get - you know very little about RL - have a chat with Adam he's about your level...s s

You're in no position to tell anyone how much they know about RL if you think Scott Grix is better than Zak Hardaker. Probably the only person who agrees with you is Scott Grix's mum.

I'm not Grix's Mam..


Scott Grix is worth more than the sum of his parts to Wakey, would Hardaker offer more ?.....I dunno, its a hypothetical question and only really deserves a pass the time of day discussion, at present, I wouldn't swap.
But there is something not right about Hardaker and its not easy to put a finger on, but he isn't the uninhibited natural with attitude that he was imo.
What I find more interesting is Hardaker 2015 vs Hardaker 2017, somewhere in there, he lost an edge ?.....but maybe he gained something else ?
Whatever, I don't think it was worth the trade off, he's playing ok in a team playing way above ok.
For a couple of years he was ripping it up in a way above ok Leeds team, yet hasn't pulled any trees up since, so... give us a clue.

he's playing a lot better then "ok" .

Well he was the Man of Steel for a team that won the treble in 2015, something Scott Grix never has done and never will do. Admittedly he was crap last year, but that was in a team that was pretty crap all round and he supposedly had some pretty bad personal issues to deal with which will have effected his game loads. Plus he was hardly the consumate professional before that anyway. Now he's got away from Leeds he looks to be back to his best, playing extremely well in a team that is playing some of the best rugby any team has played for years. He's always been regarded as one of the best full backs around defensively and the questions marks over his game were more to do with things in attack, yet this season he's leading the league in try assists so he looks to have improved there. I've just had a look at Betfred and he's currently the second favourite to be Man of Steel again this season, whilst they aren't even offering odds for it to be Scott Grix. Grix is a good player, one of our best so far this season, however Hardaker has been one of the best in the league full stop. I don't understand how it's even remotely controversial to argue that Hardaker is better, in fact, I'd say it's pretty dumb to try and argue otherwise (although it's to be expected from Vastman).

Except i'm the only one on here not hiding behind a pseudonym. It just makes me laugh - i remember first posting on here and seeing you for what you were straight away (old fashioned, out-of-date, "they-don't-make-'em-like-they-used-to" bully boy) and calling you out on it. I got a warning from the board back then but now it seems finally most people have woken up. Things is when you post without the hyperbole, exaggeration and over-defensive nonsense you make some decent contributions but it's hard to try and get involved seriously given the tone and nature of half your responses.

Yeah well, looks like you both have something in common then.

Years? How far back are we going here?

agree I think Tupou has been in outstanding form... Lynne was playing so well and Arundel looks assured and confident...

loving the choices...

and that players are covering injury and really playing for their places!

Grix was good when he played for us previously but he has matured well and seems a little more resilient this season (or maybe lucky!)

ps not really into the debate that this clubs player is better than that clubs player... a team is the sum of its constituent parts ... and then some (called synergy)

the synergy of the Cas team is currently outstanding... the synergy of Trinity is very very good....


would love to see both these teams achieve some success and silverware this year....