Never realised that, I always thought it was outline with detailed plans to follow following the SOS approval. In that case it's only the lack of funding that prevents anything happening at NM.

So if funding is found or forced to be found/financed Newmarket could be built more or less straight away.

I like M62 J30's positive comments regarding the new stadium.

Changing the subject slightly, my favourite music band from my era, were, and still are Deacon Blue. They are still active, and late last year released a single and album called "The Believers"

A song of hope.

Maybe the club could adopt this as an anthem

I've heard that we are going to the Stadium of Light.

Wow - it doesn't take much for the miserabilists to come out in force!

Does anyone remember Carter's brinkmanship with BV last year, to force the BoI's hand? I can't see this being anything other than a similar exercise - and I expect that there are things going on in the background that are attached to it, not least the potential threat of legal action and a whole lot of embarrassment, negative PR and heavy costs, for the other parties involved.

I wouldn't be planning your trips to Newcastle just yet.

Unfortunately that is the hardest thing to find.

Again Trinity don't hold any cards. 88m? They'll just demolish the ground and crack on getting a return on their investment, WMDC? Would probably be glad to see the back of Trinity. YC/Mackie? Again they'll be ing themselves and moving makes their life easier. The only losers in this scenario is Wakefield Trinity and the 3-4k active supporters.

Given that the land is owned by other parties that have a deal in place for purchase with the developer then no it isn't quite that simple. And the planning permission runs out in december if i remember correctly? The chanceof anything getting started by then is pretty much zero.

Reading MC's interview in league weekly this isn't just this years attempt to get a rate reduction, we are going. It's not a case of if but more where to, Dewsbury or 'another ground on West Yorkshire'.

It's all part of the process which could end up at high court which we are willing to and have been advised to go for unless we get what we were promised either at Newmarket, Belle Vue or wherever in the City.

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We should have gone to Dewsbury last season and got straight on with legal proceedings

I didn't say it was an attempt to get a rate reduction; but it is almost certainly a move in a bigger game.

MC may not be Richard Branson - but he hasn't suddenly become an idiot.

I would very much like to know what the basis of these legal proceedings are. The Newcold development being built outside the UU i can see the point but it still wouldn't reach the trigger point for the stadium so there has been no breach there either way. The council may not have been supportive in persuading Yorkcourt to push for further business on the site but neither is that a crime in the eyes of the law, they can't force them to build on it. Is there evidence that the council have actively turned or disuaded potential applications for the site away? Neither is it against the law for Yorkcourt to sit on the land for as long as they want, or necessary for the land owner to push the situation. The developer and council being in the wrong morally may be abhorrent but that would get laughed out of court. So what is the crime? There must be something else otherwise taking legal action would be just a waste of time and a lot of money? It's time for those involved to spill the beans because they'll need eveyones full support to have a glimmer of hope.

Oh i'm sure its a thinly veiled public threat to certain people in a final hope it stirs them into action, the problem is i doubt for one minute it will bother them. They will defend themselves in court with a raft of public money, go on a major public charm offensive whilst attacking the trust and it will only be costly to them if they lose which Box, Mackie & co. won't even consider a possibility, thats just what they are like. Like it or not they are also pretty shrewd operators, hence we are where we are. Even if we won would they ever build a stadium? I doubt it and Box is like a cockroach, he would survive a nuclear holocaust. My worry is this is all going to get very messy indeed and i fear the future for my club whatever happens.

Clearly you're cynical and you don't see a positive outcome either way; and believe me, I can see many of the same points you've raised. The whole thing has clearly been an example of men against boys up to now, with Rodney Walker appearing to be at best disinterested, and at worst, a cuckoo in the nest.

All that said - I really don't see MC as a pushover, or naïve; so this latest development is almost certainly a move, and he won't have made it unilaterally - there will be advice behind it, as part of a bigger strategy.

As for your second post - why would anyone divulge the nature of any legal case on a public forum, just to give you a glimmer of hope? That would only serve to prepare the opposition in advance and weaken our position - yes?