I have been supporting us too long not to be looking over our shoulders. Until we are mathematically guaranteed a top 8 spot then I will not be confident.

Hull looked decidedly not-d about that game from minute 1; they were either knackered or complacent and their discipline was awful - Manu was in a particularly objectionable frame of mind - looked like he wanted to get sent off.

I would be more concerned if we were 8th. Tonight is the trickiest one to call. Salford losing gets rid of another chaser, but puts us nearer the rest. I think on balance I'm rooting for Salford, as if one does break away and puts some wins together, it keeps Cas closer. Similarly, with Leeds and Widnes. It's about us staying above Cas and Widnes, not about the pack that's chasing.

Aren't you forgetting salford points appeal and the impact of them winning it?

Pains me to say it but I hope Cas win tonight.

I also hope Widnes beat Leeds and Warrington beat hull KR.

mmmm, Koukash claiming on BBC RL website he has hard evidence in black and white that Salford did not breach salary cap, he states "We have not gone over the salary cap by a single pound or for a single day" this could be getting interesting given the current Super League table.

If Warrington beat Hull KR tonight Hull KR can't finish above us.
Same goes if Widnes beat Leeds on Sunday, Leeds won't be able to finish above us.

That would just leave Hudds who have a (very) slim chance and Salford dependant on points being re-instated.

Forgotten it? I'll be spending Monday glued to the internet!

Maybe I do want Cas to win. Oh, who knows! My head hurts.

If we win against Saints, does that pretty much confirm our place in the eight?

Yes, it would, other than the possibility of Salford winning their points back. His comments on the BBC website this morning are interesting, and he is very confident that they haven't breached the cap. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/36682432 If they do get all or some of their points back, I think us, Cas and our dear friends in WIdnes will be looking over their shoulder a bit now

Yes, it would, other than the possibility of Salford winning their points back. His comments on the BBC website this morning are interesting, and he is very confident that they haven't breached the cap. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/36682432 If they do get all or some of their points back, I think us, Cas and our dear friends in WIdnes will be looking over their shoulder a bit now

Leeds (3 games left) and Hudds (2 games left) can only reach a maximum of 16 points, Hull kr (3 games left) can only reach 17 points. Unless I'm missing something?

You are, 1 game short for each team, we play 23 in first stage

Maybe the evidence hadn't been written at that stage, if you know what I mean!