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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I doubt you could play Ryan at centre not quick or fit enough. The obvious choice would be Hall regardless of what some of you will say. I would remind supporters what some of our so called experts thought about Arundel.'"
Lee Smith is now the obvious centre choice. Ryan should be on the bench and could then slot into the forwards or backs - if he had been on the bench today then we could have kept Miller at half back (not sure who played in the halves after the re-shuffle, it seemed to change as the game progressed).
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| Only problem with Lee Smith is that you don't know what fitness level he's coming to the club in. He hasn't played all season so is unlikely to be match fit or anywhere near that level to be honest. Very hard to come in and play well in those circumstances.
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| Quote: 4foxsake "Only problem with Lee Smith is that you don't know what fitness level he's coming to the club in. He hasn't played all season so is unlikely to be match fit or anywhere near that level to be honest. Very hard to come in and play well in those circumstances.'"
Will fit in great. Some of these players have played most of the season and still they are not playing well
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| Touche, I just wish we'd move away from this grapple tackle! fair enough it might slow the play the ball down, but I'd far sooner see the opposition being hit backwards hard with an old fashioned tackle. They might get up and play the ball a bit quicker but they'd have doubts about running it in again!
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "
I can handle being thrashed by Leeds, Wigan, and Saints etc. That's not as embarrassing and usually expected.
However, it is embarrassing to lose by 50 odd against Widnes, Cas and Hull KR teams if we had the right attitude and coaching we could quite rightly beat, especially on home turf.
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| But its all the fan's fault because of poor attendances......
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| Quote: Willzay "I can handle being thrashed by Leeds, Wigan, and Saints etc. That's not as embarrassing and usually expected.
However, it is embarrassing to lose by 50 odd against Widnes, Cas and Hull KR teams if we had the right attitude and coaching we could quite rightly beat, especially on home turf.'"
You realise that Cas are way above the level of Widnes and Hull KR at the moment, right? And that we have beaten all three of Leeds, Wigan and Saints this season (Leeds and Saints very recently)?
If you expect to be thrashed by Leeds, Wigan and Saints why do you think you should be beating Cas?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "You realise that Cas are way above the level of Widnes and Hull KR at the moment, right? And that we have beaten all three of Leeds, Wigan and Saints this season (Leeds and Saints very recently)?
If you expect to be thrashed by Leeds, Wigan and Saints why do you think you should be beating Cas?'"
Err - because Cas have the honour of being one of the only three teams to lose to us this season???
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| Quote: Kevs Head "Err - because Cas have the honour of being one of the only three teams to lose to us this season???'"
Notice the phrase "at the moment". We had a scratchy start to the year, including the loss to Wakefield. However, given recent form expecting to beat us but to be thrashed by teams we have recently beaten isn't logical.
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| Quote: 4foxsake "But its all the fan's fault because of poor attendances......'"
of course it is. we are pathetic for not just simply turning up etc.
Poor supporters us wakey lot ...
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "You realise that Cas are way above the level of Widnes and Hull KR at the moment, right? And that we have beaten all three of Leeds, Wigan and Saints this season (Leeds and Saints very recently)?
If you expect to be thrashed by Leeds, Wigan and Saints why do you think you should be beating Cas?'"
Quite frankly it is squad quality. I see your team on paper (and many others do) as not as strong as Cas fans like to think, but the game ain't played on paper and you have arguably one of the best British coaches in the game. With other teams they rely on certain players but for you guys I think you rely on Powell. Without him, I doubt very much you'd be where you are.
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| Quote: Willzay "Quite frankly it is squad quality. I see your team on paper (and many others do) as not as strong as Cas fans like to think, but the game ain't played on paper and you have arguably one of the best British coaches in the game. With other teams they rely on certain players but for you guys I think you rely on Powell. Without him, I doubt very much you'd be where you are.'"
Agreed, Powell is the most important individual at Cas.
Although we do have some top players scattered about the team (Dorn, Carney, Shenton, Gale, Holmes and Millington would get in any SL team IMO).
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| We all know Shenton isn't a top player, he got found out massively at St Helens. Holmes and millington maybe. At the end of the day you've a solid team that's well drilled and plays to a game plan.
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| Quote: 4foxsake "We all know Shenton isn't a top player, he got found out massively at St Helens. Holmes and millington maybe. At the end of the day you've a solid team that's well drilled and plays to a game plan.'"
He was good enough to be chosen in the SL Dream Team last year and also in the England team. His stats are better than most other centres in terms of tries, try assists and metres.
I don't think he struggled at Saints as much as some make out. He played almost every games and scored 20 tries from 58 appearances. In the 2011 grand final he scored a try before dislocating his shoulder and Leeds then scored most of their tries in the position he would have been defending.
Gale has been one of the leading halves in SL this year. Carney is devastating in attack (though I wish he wouldn't shoot out of the line in defence!)
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| If he is such a good centre then why did St. Helens get rid of him? All I saw from Shenton today were repeated attempts to con the ref by throwing himself on the floor, most of which were successful.
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