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Quote: Markypants "Burnt out ?...No experience?. Are you for real?. So moi moi has never played nowhere near super league level?.Hocks only ever played tick and pass has he ?.Beswicks not played international rugby ?.Does that also make Adrian Morley at Salford inexperienced and burnt out from week to week cause he's a bit older now ?.Don't talk s.h..t!'"


1. Your point on moi Moi = not every player from NRL has come over and set SL alight, not saying Moi Moi won't, but it's a possibility he might not have the desired effect should he be promoted. Again I'll emphasise the word MIGHT, not saying he will or will not.

2. Gareth Hock, I'll give you that one. He's an experienced idiot. And put on some timber.

3. Berwick. Some Championship One players have played internationals, does that make them experienced enough for SL? If so, why are they not in SL?

4. Your point on Morley. I have never mentioned age and I'm not sure what your getting there. You might have a few players who have played SL level at some point.

The reason why i mentioned you getting burnt out was because your used to a level where your up against part time teams and that you might get a shock when playing the big physical teams of SL. Again, just to hammer home the point that this in an opinion and NOT fact, ill emphasis the word MIGHT. Stop getting your knickers in a twist.m

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Quote: Bartholemew Smythe "Are you the one poster that every club wishes wasn't one of their fans .....

No that's you apparently!

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Quote: Bartholemew Smythe "Are you the one poster that every club wishes wasn't one of their fans .....
Cast your mind back to 2005, last time you played with the big boys:

•2005 - Leigh endure something of a horror season, their first as a fully professional club and Darren Abram leaves midway through the campaign after being in charge for the clubs only league wins of the season against London Broncos (24-22) and Wakefield (40-1icon_cool.gif. The club also draws with Hull (22-22), while Tommy Martyn and Heath Cruckshank both try their hand at the job before Kiwi Tony Benson is appointed.

Although you may have beaten Wakefield during that season, it was pretty slim pickings.

Save all of your bluster for when it actually matters.

Even IF you gain promotion, which is quite possible, your club will be back in the qualifiers league the following season and we can do it all over again.

The grass on the other side only looks greener.
Both our clubs will be in the qualification league for many seasons to come but, 2 wins in a Super League season wasn't much to shout about d040.gif

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Quote: wrencat1873 "
Both our clubs will be in the qualification league for many seasons to come'"


Which is an improvement for Leigh, who previously were consigned to life in a promotion-less Championship. Maybe not so good for teams that were on the right side of the drawbridge.

Quote: wrencat1873 "
2 wins in a Super League season wasn't much to shout about'"


Oh I don't know. I shouted a few expletives during that season!

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Quote: LeythIg "Which is an improvement for Leigh, who previously were consigned to life in a promotion-less Championship. Maybe not so good for teams that were on the right side of the drawbridge.

Oh I don't know. I shouted a few expletives during that season!'"


Leigh have been doing extremely well for the last few seasons and certainly last season, plus the start of this, your club looks a class above the rest of the Championship and if your form continues, you certainly will have earned the right to compete in the top flight.

It is a crying shame that the new format will not allow any promoted club to develop and prosper within it's structure.

However hard you fight and with "successful" first season back in the top flight, you will still be tasked with fighting for SL survival (in the qualifiers league).

It's good news that there is a pathway back to the top flight for all of the Championship clubs but, the and promoted club will need 2 or 3 seasons to get up to speed and this luxury is not afforded under the current structure.
Indeed, the lower half of SL will struggle to keep pace with the top half of the comp and this may well lead to a reduced top flight in years to come and then both of our clubs will be screwed.

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A marker of the task Leigh would face is how many of their current team would get into our side when fully fit? Maybe one of the halfbacks to replace Miller, which one depends on whether you want a kicking game or a support player alongside Smith. Neither though have been tested at the top level. Hock probably if he can get himself fit, something which he is a way off right now. You could argue for Liam Kay but he has already been released by us and Owen & Riley are proven SL players have over 300 tries between them at that level so maybe/maybe not. At an absolute push Moi Moi might get a spot but he is on the decline now, proven by his past couple of seasons in the NRL. Running over Hunslet & Donnys part time players is one thing but doing it week in, week out against fulltime seasoned pro's is another. The rest it's ours everytime, and they are the ones ranked bottom of superleague. Where will all the required quality come from and can it be afforded?

Leigh could well beat us in a one off cup game, in fact it wouldn't surprise me one jot if they did given where both teams are mentally this season. They are a very good team at their level, playing full of confidence and with great spirit. We are the opposite. But if Leigh were to get promotion they would have to splash some serious cash and tear up their current squadt to be competitive, otherwise it would be a distant bottom place for them. That tends to wreck the team spirit straight away but so does losing every week. Given that the clubs are likely to vote in a marquee player cap allowance plus a home grown allowance the distance between the haves and have nots is going to grow. Unless you have very deep pockets then its perennial struggle for many.

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Please don’t compare this Leigh team with the shambles of 2005, this team has been steadily built over the last couple of seasons and is now full time building for SL, 2005 was a part time team trying to go FT and mainly new recruits and very poor ones at that. This Leigh team is far better than the 2005 one.

If we did manage to go up the majority of this team will be playing SL, yes I expect it to require bolstering, but we've been doing that anyway with FFMM, Hock, etc and yes I’d expect us to probably be in the bottom 4 but provided we continue to build then perhaps in a couple of seasons who knows, 2021 we will win the challenge cup, as we do every 50yrs, this season we’ll get knocked out in the semis. icon_razz.gif

As for would any of our players get into your team, well most championship teams supporters say that as well icon_eek.gif , someone from SKY (O'Connor?) ask Rowley how he’d managed to get this Crazy gang to work? He just walked off laughing, but somehow we are a better team than the individual parts. And great to watch. icon_cool.gif

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Clueless and disrespectful are two words that come to mind when reading some of the posts on this thread. Just spotted the old get out....... 'You may beat us in a one off game', comparisons with something that happened 10 years ago, the other team had injuries ie Salford only had a 2 man bench, well Leigh only used 3 of their bench. A team that is unbeaten at home in 18 months, have won the last 21 competitive games deserves some respect whatever competition they are in. A coach that goes out to win every game rather than one who doesn't give a stuff about the next 12 games deserves respect.

I cannot believe the Wakey fans seem not to be bothered by the attitude of your Board and Management. Giving up after just a third of the season is an absolute disgrace. Your coach has decided to play russian roulette with your SL survival.

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Quote: DemonUK "I cannot believe the Wakey fans seem not to be bothered by the attitude of your Board and Management. Giving up after just a third of the season is an absolute disgrace. Your coach has decided to play russian roulette with your SL survival.'"


You couldn't be further from the truth. We are bothered and those of us who bought season tickets feel as though we are not getting the commitment back that we made to the club ~ on the comments made by one employee.

I appreciate we have suffered a lot of injuries but I personally want to see a determination to win attitude. I don't mind losing if our players look interested and as passionate as we are to want the win.

Thursday will be interesting because we could have the full committed Wakey turn up or the I can't be bothered crew.

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Quote: DemonUK "Clueless and disrespectful are two words that come to mind when reading some of the posts on this thread. Just spotted the old get out....... 'You may beat us in a one off game', comparisons with something that happened 10 years ago, the other team had injuries ie Salford only had a 2 man bench, well Leigh only used 3 of their bench. A team that is unbeaten at home in 18 months, have won the last 21 competitive games deserves some respect whatever competition they are in. A coach that goes out to win every game rather than one who doesn't give a stuff about the next 12 games deserves respect.

I cannot believe the Wakey fans seem not to be bothered by the attitude of your Board and Management. Giving up after just a third of the season is an absolute disgrace. Your coach has decided to play russian roulette with your SL survival.'"


What an absolutely fantastic post Demon. eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Cokey "What an absolutely fantastic post Demon.
In your opinion, which counts for little since all you spout is crap. You two are coming across as smug and arrogant. Were you like this a couple of years ago? I doubt it.

It's clear Demon hasn't been in this forum the past couple of months otherwise he/she/it would've found quite a lot of outrage over Websters comments.

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Quote: Willzay "In your opinion, which counts for little since all you spout is crap. You two are coming across as smug and arrogant. Were you like this a couple of years ago? I doubt it.

It's clear Demon hasn't been in this forum the past couple of months otherwise he/she/it would've found quite a lot of outrage over Websters comments.'"


1. The truth is obviously hurting.
2. And your point is? eusa_eh.gif

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Quote: Willzay "In your opinion, which counts for little since all you spout is crap. You two are coming across as smug and arrogant. Were you like this a couple of years ago? I doubt it.

It's clear Demon hasn't been in this forum the past couple of months otherwise he/she/it would've found quite a lot of outrage over Websters comments.'"


They were probably smug and arrogant Man Utd supporters two years ago.

I remember when we were good......droves of new supporters became expert in everything and then left never to b e seen again.

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Quote: Cokey "What an absolutely fantastic post Demon.
Christ on a bike man you're boring - we get it you're the greatest club in the world and Demon is a poster of heroic proportions.

Finally you'll stuff us, your better than Leeds, you will win SL in your first season then the NRL - then in following years virtually all sporting competition culminating in a Ryder Cup victory and a creditable second in the Grand National. Oh, and I forget that you will win enough seats in the elections to form your own government without the need for coalition partners. eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif

Happy now?

Please go icon_wave.gif

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