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| I can't say I'm ever confident of a Trinity victory when they are purportedly the favourites. Unfortunately experience has taught me that's when they serve up their worst performances.
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| Quote: The Avenger "They're here
Quote: The Avenger "I thought it was quite simple till I read that'"
I wished I hadn't asked myself, Think I'll wait till the end of round 23 it must be simpler.
Thanks anyway.
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| Nice and clear that then i don't think! So lets say hypothetically we finish in the bottom four with the two Hull clubs and Widnes and the championship top four in order is Bradford, Leigh, London and Fev. I think it would work like this...
If the bottom of Superleague finished..
Hull
Hull KR
Wakefield
Widnes
Then our fixtures would be
Home - Widnes, London, Hull KR
Away - Hull, Bradford, Leigh, Fev
But if us and Hull KR were to swap places it would be..
Home - Bradford, Leigh, Widnes, London
Away - Hull, Hull KR, Fev
All guesswork as to where clubs may or may not finish obviously but shows the importance of not resting players purely focused on the super eights. Finishing 9th or 10th could make our job a whole lot easier by not having to travel to the fulltime championship clubs home grounds.
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| Good explanation Theboyem
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| So if we finished 10th we would get an extra home game and it would cost season ticket holders no more, but if we finished 11th or below we would get an extra away game and have to pay for it!! Doesn't really reward loyal fans dies it?
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| Quote: Theboyem "Nice and clear that then i don't think! So lets say hypothetically we finish in the bottom four with Huddersfield and Castleford and Widnes and the championship top four in order is Bradford, Leigh, London and Fev. I think it would work like this...
If the bottom of Superleague finished..
Huddersfield
Castleford
Wakefield
Widnes
Then our fixtures would be
Home - Widnes, London, Castleford
Away - Huddersfield, Bradford, Leigh, Fev
But if us and Castleford were to swap places it would be..
Home - Bradford, Leigh, Widnes, London
Away - Huddersfield, Castleford, Fev
All guesswork as to where clubs may or may not finish obviously but shows the importance of not resting players purely focused on the super eights. Finishing 9th or 10th could make our job a whole lot easier by not having to travel to the fulltime championship clubs home grounds.'"
Edited for personal preference
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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "my main concern is fitness again if your not the most talented then work twice as hard as anyone else in training.'"
There may be something in the issue with our training methods which according to Shaun Wane are not as intensive as at Wigan. We need to be the one of the fittest teams in the league to get more out of our players.
“......whenever we have played Wakefield I have admired Taulima and he has always troubled us. He is a big, athletic guy and will fit in with us perfectly.
“They way we train has been a bit of a shock for him and Larne, because it is quite intense and different to what they have been used to. But they have both relished it and are already giving us so much more.
www.totalrl.com/2015-preview-wigan-warriors/?
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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "my main concern is fitness again if your not the most talented then work twice as hard as anyone else in training.'"
There may be something in the issue with our training methods which according to Shaun Wane are not as intensive as at Wigan. We need to be the one of the fittest teams in the league to get more out of our players.
“......whenever we have played Wakefield I have admired Taulima and he has always troubled us. He is a big, athletic guy and will fit in with us perfectly.
“They way we train has been a bit of a shock for him and Larne, because it is quite intense and different to what they have been used to. But they have both relished it and are already giving us so much more.
www.totalrl.com/2015-preview-wigan-warriors/?
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| Quote: asmadasa "There may be something in the issue with our training methods which according to Shaun Wane are not as intensive as at Wigan. We need to be the one of the fittest teams in the league to get more out of our players.
“......whenever we have played Wakefield I have admired Taulima and he has always troubled us. He is a big, athletic guy and will fit in with us perfectly.
“They way we train has been a bit of a shock for him and Larne, because it is quite intense and different to what they have been used to. But they have both relished it and are already giving us so much more.
The shock and intestity may be more related to Wane's requirement of thuggery and intimidation as seen in the Grand Final.
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| We clearly aren't as fit as the other teams in the league as evidenced by the fact that last season quite often a number of players are blowing out of their arris after 15 mins.
This issue is the responsibility of the conditioner and it is my opinion that our current conditioners methods haven't moved on with the developments in the field and hence our players are not getting the right advice and programmes.
If the conditioning issues are not addressed then in my opinion, we will continue to struggle to compete for 80 mins and be soft defensively, meaning a number of large losses.
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| My observation of our conditioning from what I've seen on training days, during games and the injury list is that it's more reliant on weights and strength than actual physical fitness.
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| I recall a few years back the fitness of the side was criticised for being heavily cardiovascular based and not enough emphasis was based on strength meaning teams powered through the defence due to shear size. As ever their needs to be a happy medium.
Out of interest what's Geoff Evans upto these days?
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Out of interest what's Geoff Evans upto these days?'"
When he was the conditioner it's the fittest I've seen the team in the SL era. The long run of home wins in the second half of the season was down to us blowing teams away in the final quarter.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Out of interest what's Geoff Evans upto these days?'"
Obviously not still at Shudds because Wane says Lard Patrick is struggling too.
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| Quote: The Avenger "No they have to win more than the SL clubs do and to do that they need to beat a SL club which won't happen!'"
Looking at the other squads, which SL teams do you think you'd beat in a play off situation?
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| We've proved already, with this squad, that we're capable of beating anyone on the day.
Next season the difference between us and Bradford for example, is that we'll be competing in the higher intensity of SL on a weekly basis.
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