Yes i think we all agree on the stopping of the freebies its no longer an issue, if we take the concession age rise out of the equation what we are basically saying is we encoraged the kids to attend for say ten years or so then as soon as they finish being a junior they jump straight up to adult with a season ticket increase from £70 to £250, its a big jump and risks loosing many of the young supporters whom we have been encoraging to attend matches regularly. Maybe its just me but it just doesnt seem to make sense. Anyway it is what it is and we will see but thats the last i will say on the issue.

Surely thats all down to personal opinion. I enjoy watching a number of different sports all of which have differing skill sets, just being a good athlete doesn't always equate to producing a great spectacle. Whilst out of misguided loyalty i still attend but for me RL is a more sterile version of the one i started watching many years ago with the majority of players in general less 'skillful' but with more strength and fitness and a lot better at wrestling. I find there are too many 'identikit' players these days, the 6ft 2, 16 stone, straight line runners. Maybe there is a touch of nostalgia getting in the way but many times last season i found myself at a game actually bored at what was being served up. But that is just my personal opinion and others may love it that way. I do though know there are many that feel the same.

And anyway i assume that the poster was referring to the Wakey performances in particular which, bar the occasional flicker, have in general been pretty rubbish for 50 years!

I remember that now - still wear the beanie hat ! Also, one of the benefits of the card system is that it is not transferrable and I would like us to go back to it - maybe when/if we move.

Well go spend £32 a game to watch Leeds Utd then and compare the level of skill and entertainment on show with your average SL game.

I dissagree about the skills level of players now as well, yes, there are less mavericks, less freedom of expression and the game is more planned but the skills levels of most players is higher. I also dissagree about straight line runners, particularly in the forwards there were far more in the 70s and 80s than there are today. Kids of 11 and 12 are taught to run angles and use footwork, to read what's in front of them and vary their lines/speed accordingly.

I/we digress a little and I don't want to drag the thread off topic though

My point is there are better alternatives than watching Trinity within our area when you want to follow a successful club. Majority of potential support looks at Wins v Losses column, that's why a League table of performance is virtually identical to one showing crowds.

So, how many season tickets have we sold?

Well nearly 18K did on a snowy january evening last night. And i'd guarantee you there are more football fans in Wakefield than rugby so are they all wrong? Many i know happily enjoy watching both and to try and question skill levels accross sport is nothing short of ridiculous. Whether you are more entertained watching football or rugby is purely subjective.

More structure + less mavericks & freedom of expression = less entertainment for me. But again thats purely subjective. And kids were always taught to run angles, i was 30 years ago! But these days they are also taught to wrestle as the game is all about elbows and knees, winning the ruck and fast play the balls with too many runs from dummy half off the back of it. Less movement of the the ball comes from those tactics and one newby i took last year was suitably unimpressed. 'It's just five runs and a kick down the field or to the corner everytime' was the phrase he used.

I agree though this is off topic and i'll leave this alone. If people are happy they will pay what it costs, if they don't they won't. FWIW i feel the club should have kept the concessions as they were but there you go.

£32 to watch a bunch of over paid prima donnas vs £21 to watch 2 teams genuinely putting their bodies on the line (not feigning a trip or conning a referee)
You really are having a laugh !

I have to agree with modern RL being more power based, but skill levels (along with fitness and strength) have certainly improved since the sport went full time.

Bloody hell mate, you've put a lot of words into leaving this alone!

Not having a laugh, plenty more people think paying that to watch football is value for money than they do paying to watch their local rugby teams. Leeds Utd average about the same as Wakey, Cas & the Rhinos put together on a weekly basis, whatever people on a RL forum might think of the 'beautiful' game (and to some extent i agree with you about by the way!). But i imagine if you asked a majority of soccer fans they wouldn't pay £22 to watch us either! It's all relative, what we should be doing regarding season tickets is not giving people an excuse not to renew. We have done that with this policy change. It's needs to be remembered that RL isn't even the biggest sport in its own heartland, we need to make sure it is not alienating its own.

And there is no doubt fitness levels have improved but i can't agree with skill levels. They may well be just as talented but how would know as has been said they are coached not to show it and stick to game plans which for me leads to a more sterile game than it used to be. Miller picked over Sammut seems to be an example of that. Again just my own opinion but attendances were down at most clubs last year even off the back off a successful world cup so something isn't right somewhere. I would reduce wrestling, go back to the 5 metres rule and reduce substitutions to try and bring back the true creative play. Whether it would help shift more tickets i don't know but i reckon it would help.

Sorry, i'm off again for a while now! It needed stirring up on here anyway!

Saying people are stupid for paying more to watch something you don't like doesn't really help us.
It's a fine opinion but we need people to buy tickest for Wakefield Trinity. Telling them (and I know we are not actually doing that) to just change their mind won't do it.

People go watch football over Wakefield because they
1) Prefer football
2) Have limited money and prefer football
3) their mates go and just go to be "In"
4) They don't know about other sports so go where they know

We can only change 3 and 4.