From my experience in life, most appeal processes have some form of jeopardy in that the sentence/fine can
also be increased as well as reduced.

I have not looked into the Bradford appeal but I would guess it has no jeopardy, so what can they loose by appealing.
For this to be a fair process there must be a downside.

I wonder if the Bulls would appeal if the points could be increased to 8 or 10 ?

If their defence is purely that administration was forced on them once by the current owner it should have no sway with the RFL. The criteria they favour involves agreement to pay creditors back in full or part particulary the HMRC. I have not read anything to say this is their plan so would ask on what grounds are they granted an appeal.

So are they now saying that they went into administration due to an act of God

I’ve no idea how much the new owner has paid the creditors from the OK Bulls shambles, and to be honest I’m finding it all a bit tiring now, what with secret loans, lease purchases, funding reductions, pay-day loans, and on and on.

But if they were to get back more than two points, it will be the biggest sham since the Wigan S.C debacle.

Unforeseeable and unavoidable


I'm interested to hear how any businessman can say it was unforeseeable and unavoidable.
Anybody with half a brain could see that even if you clear all your debts but still sustain a wage bill that is beyond your means it's only a matter of time before you're in a hole again. Not exactly unforeseeable was it??? Or unavoidable? Maybe cut your cloth accordingly and then see if you can survive as opposed to burying your head in the sand.

M Carter is spot on, if we had been told we could go into admin stay in SL and then appeal a points deduction then we would have done that instead of doing it the right way and selling half the team losing nearly all the office staff and those that were left taking a pay cut. Imaging this happening in football, do they have independent panels to appeal points deductions,plus this independent panel do they have the final say or is that down to the RFL. End of the day same rules should apply to all clubs, that's sport isn't it?

Force Majeure ` when an extraordinary event or circumstance beyond the control of the parties, such as a war, strike, riot, crime, or an event described by the legal term act of God (such as hurricane, flooding, earthquake, volcanic eruption, etc.), prevents one or both parties from fulfilling their obligations under the contract`

Was the Earthquake occurrence when Nigel went to discuss the lease purchase? This latest position is a real stab in the dark on your Chairman who has acted with integrity throughout.

You would think that a club well-versed in admin difficulties would be a little less harsh on a club going through the same thing.

Same thing?

I presume you’ve just had a quick flick through and seen the word Administration?

I was told that they went into admin to get the club from mr Khan. The only thing is that the people involved never got the club and it went back into admin so should be a None starter when it comes to excuses.

You should definitely make up your mind based on what you heard down the pub.

Are you bigunbrad in disguise?

Really?

I was told they went into admin because HMRC were about to issue a Winding Up Order on them that would have seen them liquidate the company to pay their debts, so Mr Green took them into admin to try and protect his "loan".

Again, hardly unforeseeable. Don't pay the taxman and guess what he will do?

I would have thought that too

Thing is MC as dealt with a threat of Admin in the correct manner, by selling untill the debts are paid and thats been tough going, maybe you can see why he's not being harsh.

Bradford Bulls could have done the same and cleared the decks could they not.

I've read the article on sky sports news and MC has called this bang on and I think getting it out in the public domain was of huge bearing.
It would be interesting to here the views of the other SL chairmen on this matter also.

On Backchat they stated that Wakefield are in serious financial trouble again. Maybe Mr Carter is just doing his job and doing his best to protect them from a relegation that could finish them. Every chairman would do the same.