While i agree with the overall point you make, many players would say the same about us and our fairly poor record of giving players a chance, certainly Kay and Cowling would be among them, both of who i would have picked before fox and lynn on numerous occasions this season...justifiably i think.
We must also identify that the gain we are getting at the moment from our leeds love in is a short term one, the big gain is being made by Leeds as these young lads will get more chance of SL experience with us this year than was likely at headingley, and leeds will benefit from that in future years. That said i am happy with the situation as we have pretty few options.

we knew this would be the case going back to P&R ...teams will ultimately have to look to short term options.

I would say that if Kay and Cowling were kept for Keinhorst and Briscoe, and proved to be not of SL standard, people would be just as if ot more irked

Not really, in effect potential is replacing potential, all be it possibly cheaper. Besides we'd never know in order to be irked.

someone said it earlier though, Leeds finge players will be better than yours (theoretically) and JK has SL experience already.

You're right about Briscoe, for sure, but if he's on 30k at Leeds, his wage will be subsidised surely?

We've signed Marc Sneyd on a similar contract I reckon, we've got Ellis, Dorn, Seymour and my hero Finn.... It's a signing we wouldn't use 25-30k on otherwise.

If Kay's agent was requesting a 30k contract for Kay then this is surely a more sensible option. You don't wanna be overspending again for the sake of a fringe player

I meant LB and JK are likely to be cheaper than LK and DC. Potential is just that, regardless of which club the player comes from. Playing for Leeds juniors may give them a better grounding but its no guarantee they'll be better than what Trinity have lost.

Anyway its a moot point because we have what we have. Who knows they could both impress and end up signing permanent deals for Trinity after the loan ala Amor.

I think there is a feeling you go to the best club that you can or the highest profile club that you can.

You give it a crack and if you succeed you are first team at a top established club. If you fail, you have been in a potentially superior environment and teams in the same division but lower down the table will be interested in giving you a shot and potentially fast tracking you into the first team.

If you stick at a club lower down the food chain and do not crack it rarely do you get another chance at a Super League club so have to drop into the National Leagues.

As I seem to be annoying people I will make this my last post , the comment regarding minimum wage referred to First Team squad players both this and last season who  were/are allegedly on less than 12 grand a year( if I am wrong I apologise). On my one trick pony subject . I developed a interest in the colts and A teams many  years ago , every so often we have produced a crop of   players who should have stood the club in good stead for a number of years , ( Sharlston Lads , The Marches era ) . I honestly thought that with the creation of the 1873 scheme and its 100£ share issue predecessor we would no longer waste talent again. but it seems to be not the case . the all conquering team of three / four seasons ago in my opinion will by the end of this season be discarded, it’s obvious RFA doesn’t rate them ( I have no idea why. other than maybe who their coaches were) preferring again in my opinion to follow the Huddersfield model of letting others have the bother of finding and them and developing them , . If that is actually the case then why not come clean and say so , after all he is the gaffer and what he says goes, I would imagine most hardcore supporters would still contribute to a lottery, which the club could use for anything they wish.

There's no need to stop posting because some people disagree with you. The whole point of a forum is to hear all views (subject to legality).

Successive coaches have far too often overlooked the young lads at this club, licencing was the ideal time to blood them without the worry of relegation. Sadly the shortsightedness of the RFL and subsequently member clubs removes that safety net in which talented kids get their chance.

As an aside I have to say the posting style of three posters kind of involved in junior development is strikingly similar.

It certainly is, what a shock!

Try scorer, victor - whose the third?

Though his employer had banned him from posting on forums

The development of players at a club like Wake is a premium but due to the pressure of success being put first, the franchise system gets pushed to the side.
Wake have produced some really good players but due to the colour of the shirt, they seemed to get overlooked for rep honours.
This makes them want to move to a top six club to get recognition.
This is basically what is wrong with the franchising system in our game.
In Oz it doesn't matter if you are playing for the bottom of the table side, if you are a quality player, you get picked to play rep rugby.
Happened to Civonocieva when he moved from Brisbane to Penrith a few years ago.
I maybe wearing my RW&B specs but I never thought that there was much to choose between Dennis Betts and Gary Price apart from which club they were playing for.

Got to agree with Victor, we are left with Anakin, Wildie, Trout and Walshaw from the best junior team in the land. They and others from that team should have played some first team for John Kear and certainly played a great deal more first team for Richard Agar. We are lucky to still have these lads on the books.

Although they were successful in my opinion that team was used as a box ticking exercise by Wakefield, and whilst a good team I think this hindered their development significantly.

I am not saying they were not a good team, because they were a very good team, but unlike other clubs who sent their players out on loan and who generally were not playing at that level in favor of testing them to play at a higher level Wakefield kept them in house.

I personally think this did them no favors in relation to their development and held them back.

In my opinion Junior rugby is about producing players not winning trophies. I am of the opinion Wakefield thought it would boost their franchise application if they produced a successful team at that level rather than doing what was right for the players and their development.