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| Quote: asmadasa "Just looked it up and we've got him for another 2 seasons anyway so if he stays fit he'll continue to get his plaudits week in and week out for Wakefield regardless of sceptics. He's only 27.
I admit last season he used to go missing but think that was something to do with injuries. This season he's been very good and a real handful for the opposition creating tries for Fox and Aiton yesterday.
We've got a good team we just need a bit more consistency and keep our defence tight.'"
When did Aiton score ???????
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| Solid in attack AND defence! Does not always set his winger free, but has done more this season. Deffo worth an extension for me! Best quality centre we have had for some time. If we don,t keep him I think there will be plenty of others that want to!
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| Quote: metallicat "When did Aiton score ???????
Sorry typo he created tries recently for Fox (Catalan) and Aiton (Widnes) but had a very good game also yesterday.
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "So what's your beef with my post?'"
I don't really understand where you're going with it and you seem to be focused on the wrong centre position that was the weak link in our back line where they scored through, did you see the game?
In some posts from you Collis is very good and then the one that I quoted it says you are still to be convinced he has an effective offload game? The player is pure class end of. Maybe you're trying too hard to be controversial?
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| Quote: asmadasa "I don't really understand where you're going with it and you seem to be focused on the wrong centre position that was the weak link in our back line where they scored through, did you see the game?
In some posts from you Collis is very good and then the one that I quoted it says you are still to be convinced he has an effective offload game? The player is pure class end of. Maybe you're trying too hard to be controversial?'"
"Focused on the wrong centre position?" Do you think I am confusing Collis with another player?
Who mentioned anybody as being a weak link?
I see no contradiction whatsoever in agreeing that Collis is a very good centre, but I am yet to be convinced he has an effective offload game. There are plenty of very good centres about that don't have an effective offload game, but the thing that separates a very good centre from a top drawer one (Lyon, Gidley, Moon et al) is the ability to get rid of the ball and put his winger away in the collision, and on all seen form Collis is yet to prove he can do this consistently and at the top level.
Maybe you're not trying hard enough to read or understand?
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| I agree with you Tommy
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| Thought he had signed until 2014? Even so, we should look to keep him until 2017!
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Quote: Willzay "Thought he had signed until 2014? Even so, we should look to keep him until 2017!'"
He is under contract until 2014. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/prof ... collis-172
''Australian Dean Collis was the first signing made by Richard Agar following his appointment with the former West Tigers and Cronulla Sharks man arriving in West Yorkshire on a three-year deal.''
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Quote: Willzay "Thought he had signed until 2014? Even so, we should look to keep him until 2017!'"
He is under contract until 2014. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/prof ... collis-172
''Australian Dean Collis was the first signing made by Richard Agar following his appointment with the former West Tigers and Cronulla Sharks man arriving in West Yorkshire on a three-year deal.''
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers ""Focused on the wrong centre position?" Do you think I am confusing Collis with another player?
Who mentioned anybody as being a weak link?
I see no contradiction whatsoever in agreeing that Collis is a very good centre, but I am yet to be convinced he has an effective offload game. There are plenty of very good centres about that don't have an effective offload game, but the thing that separates a very good centre from a top drawer one (Lyon, Gidley, Moon et al) is the ability to get rid of the ball and put his winger away in the collision, and on all seen form Collis is yet to prove he can do this consistently and at the top level.
Maybe you're not trying hard enough to read or understand?'"
I give up 10 tries in 13 matches so far for Collis with his winger Fox scoring 12 tries in the same amount of matches. There isn't an issue to look at for me when Mellars scored 3 in 12 last year and 1 in 5 this year albeit he has played out of position this year. He couldn't bend his back to take that pass from Cockayne with the line beckoning other day and didn't create space for Cockayne throughout the match.
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| Last season I would have said Collis didnt feed his winger enough that might have been due to them getting familiar with how they play and the slight injury he appeared to be carrying.This season has been different and we have seen a well fit and able Collis and him feed Fox when its needed plus his defence has been good.
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| Get the pen and paper now. He's class
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| Quote: asmadasa "I give up 10 tries in 13 matches so far for Collis with his winger Fox scoring 12 tries in the same amount of matches. There isn't an issue to look at for me when Mellars scored 3 in 12 last year and 1 in 5 this year albeit he has played out of position this year. He couldn't bend his back to take that pass from Cockayne with the line beckoning other day and didn't create space for Cockayne throughout the match.'"
You give up what? Discussing rugby league on a rugby league forum?
Collis and Fox have a great partnership that scores us plenty of points? Absolutely, Collis has been our most dangerous player by far in my opinion this year, more effective than even Ali and his contribution probably as important to us as that of Timmy Smith.
Mellers isn't in the same street and is a player we should be looking to replace with better in order to improve? Dead right, an odd decent shift away at Wigan is a poor return regardless of playing out of position.
Out of interest, do you think Collis has an effective offload game or not?
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "You give up what? Discussing rugby league on a rugby league forum?
Collis and Fox have a great partnership that scores us plenty of points? Absolutely, Collis has been our most dangerous player by far in my opinion this year, more effective than even Ali and his contribution probably as important to us as that of Timmy Smith.
Mellers isn't in the same street and is a player we should be looking to replace with better in order to improve? Dead right, an odd decent shift away at Wigan is a poor return regardless of playing out of position.
Out of interest, do you think Collis has an effective offload game or not?'"
I'm guessing it's a yes as it has been from almost everyone else.
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| At risk of complicating the argument even further - the centre's ability to offload is dependant on the winger running the right line; does Foxy always do that?
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| Quote: bren2k "At risk of complicating the argument even further - the centre's ability to offload is dependant on the winger running the right line; does Foxy always do that?'"
He does to be fair, that's probably why he's on 12 it's a great partnership - bit of luck could have been 14.
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