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Quote: vastman "Also stooped him scoring a few more - we were good but nat that good, Leeds had plenty of chances. Foxy had the hardest job on the field against an on fire Hall, he had little choice on occasion to just go for him. Remember Hall is one of the few British players who can score against the Aussies.'"


I wouldn't argue with that but in fairness, the two he scored in quick succession only needed Foxy to bump him with the shoulder as he landed and put him into touch; the first one in particular should have ended with Hall splattered all over the East Stand.

The third was a corker though - not many would have stopped him.

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That's the beauty of a great team effort though. Hall's tries were an irrelevance in terms of the result and the coaches can work with Fox before you play Cas. I'm willing to bet he won't be giving much away against them.

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Quote: Clearwing "That's the beauty of a great team effort though. Hall's tries were an irrelevance in terms of the result and the coaches can work with Fox before you play Cas. I'm willing to bet he won't be giving much away against them.'"


Absolutely - according to Agar's post-match, Foxy was well aware that he'd had a nightmare few minutes against Hall, so I expect he'll be flogged on the bags this week and will be looking to launch his opposite number into the stands at Cas.

All of that said, I wouldn't put myself in front of Hall when he's in full flight - to quote from the Stevo book of stating the bleedin' obvious, he's a big unit!

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Quote: bren2k "I wouldn't argue with that but in fairness, the two he scored in quick succession only needed Foxy to bump him with the shoulder as he landed and put him into touch; the first one in particular should have ended with Hall splattered all over the East Stand.

The third was a corker though - not many would have stopped him.'"


Hall is one of the few British backs I actually rate. He's big and fairly fast and very strong but above all else he has great positional awareness. I get your point but not many can splatter Hall anywhere and certainly not Fox. Fox is an old style winger we have to accept that. He's fairly slight and depends on his speed and balance. In defence he will always come off second best to Hall as indeed Cockayne would have. All the coaching in the world won't change the outcome much IMHO. You could put Walshaw there but you won't see any length of the field, Mellors on Crusaders form would be best but the Mellors we have would have been bested by Hall IMO.

It's just how it goes, we simply don't have a player to combat Hall as is the case with most other SL teams.

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Quote: vastman "Hall is one of the few British backs I actually rate. He's big and fairly fast and very strong but above all else he has great positional awareness. I get your point but not many can splatter Hall anywhere and certainly not Fox. Fox is an old style winger we have to accept that. He's fairly slight and depends on his speed and balance. In defence he will always come off second best to Hall as indeed Cockayne would have. All the coaching in the world won't change the outcome much IMHO. You could put Walshaw there but you won't see any length of the field, Mellors on Crusaders form would be best but the Mellors we have would have been bested by Hall IMO.

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Whilst I agree about Hall if Fox wasn't going to jump for the ball he could have at least stood between Hall and the try line so he at least had to run over/round him to score!

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Quote: J.T "Whilst I agree about Hall if Fox wasn't going to jump for the ball he could have at least stood between Hall and the try line so he at least had to run over/round him to score!'"


I'm sure he would given the chance again. Do you get it right in your job 100% of the time? I don't, I try but I don't. I've said it before nearly all tries come from an error in defence from the opposing side, most of ours did. It's how it is it's how the game remains entertaining IMHO.

That said both Fox and Cockayne have issues when it comes to decision making in defence as indeed do most British wingers - Hall is currently the best for me. However only the truly great wingers don't and Fox is not and never will be a great RL winger. However he scores a lot of tries, he entertains, he's brave even if he times it wrong on occasion. I like both of them and I reckon they are the best we can get for now but I clearly recognise they both have limitations - most Trinity players do.

We won, Foxy scored and he let a poor one in - I've seen Trinity wingers have worse nights icon_biggrin.gif

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