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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Before everyone starts bashing Kear, we should remember that he had a much weaker squad last season, and managed to beat Hull KR at home, Bradford at home and Hull away, as well as Huddersfield at home. That's eight points from those four teams alone, and by Sunday night we not have any points from the same sides.'"
Very good point. I have no issue with Agar but JK worked a miracle last year IMHO. You don't need to build one up by knocking down the other, they both had/have difficult jobs to do - way beyond the ability range of anyone on here unless Wayne Bennett has taken to posting on here. You never know
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| Quote: vastman "Very good point. I have no issue with Agar but JK worked a miracle last year IMHO. You don't need to build one up by knocking down the other, they both had/have difficult jobs to do - way beyond the ability range of anyone on here unless Wayne Bennett has taken to posting on here. You never know
I agree and I hope that JK has the same attitude.
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| Quote: Wakey Til I Die "Out of interest if Opus are trying to secure a deal on another site (and obviously dealing with another company) why would they still want to fund a stadium for Cas at GH? Surely the money will go to the other company (Nestle Rowntree is the rumour?) with Opus taking their cut? The WR deal (for houses i take it?) would surley just be a seperate thing. How are they linked? Are Opus just loaning the money once the deals are done cos i'm sure they will not be doing it out of the goodness of their heart. There has to be something in it for them.'"
Thats the £12million question.
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| Quote: Wakey Til I Die "Out of interest if Opus are trying to secure a deal on another site (and obviously dealing with another company) why would they still want to fund a stadium for Cas at GH? Surely the money will go to the other company (Nestle Rowntree is the rumour?) with Opus taking their cut? The WR deal (for houses i take it?) would surley just be a seperate thing. How are they linked? Are Opus just loaning the money once the deals are done cos i'm sure they will not be doing it out of the goodness of their heart. There has to be something in it for them.'"
They will get the same thing they got out of selling Wheldon Road to a Super Market, just Opus and Cas will receive less cash.
They're a company that make money doing this sort of thing, and an area as big as what Cas are letting them sell will give them a nice tidy profit, so why wouldn't they want to sell it?
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Before everyone starts bashing Kear, we should remember that he had a much weaker squad last season, and managed to beat Hull KR at home, Bradford at home and Hull away, as well as Huddersfield at home. That's eight points from those four teams alone, and by Sunday night we not have any points from the same sides.'"
I was comparing the last few seasons with (admittedly one TV game) how Batley played. I don't expect us to do much this season, so playing entertaining rugby and competing while the team grows to know each other will do me fine.
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| Quote: Theboyem "Thats the £12million question.'"
it's a question that should be levelled at some within council circles, because the rumours are that there is a lot of effort going in to moving a planning gain from one place to another.
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| Quote: Gronk! "They will get the same thing they got out of selling Wheldon Road to a Super Market, just Opus and Cas will receive less cash.
They're a company that make money doing this sort of thing, and an area as big as what Cas are letting them sell will give them a nice tidy profit, so why wouldn't they want to sell it?'"
I understand why they would want to sell WR for housing and get their cut, that bit makes sense. What I don't get is how does it tie in with the sale of the Nestle site? How and why should Cas gain out of that? Its nothing to do with them, surely the money will be Nestles', less opus' cut?
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| Quote: Wakey Til I Die "I understand why they would want to sell WR for housing and get their cut, that bit makes sense. What I don't get is how does it tie in with the sale of the Nestle site? How and why should Cas gain out of that? Its nothing to do with them, surely the money will be Nestles', less opus' cut?'"
It will be, Opus will just have land deals with Nestle as well as Cas.
Opus are going to do very well out of this, set out with 1 bit of land end up with 2 just down the road from each other both sold, cracking business by them.
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| Quote: Gronk! "It will be, Opus will just have land deals with Nestle as well as Cas.
Opus are going to do very well out of this, set out with 1 bit of land end up with 2 just down the road from each other both sold, cracking business by them.'"
Nice work if you can get it!
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| Quote: fat faced fan "it's a question that should be levelled at some within council circles, because the rumours are that there is a lot of effort going in to moving a planning gain from one place to another.'"
Not sure I follow. Are you suggesting that the council might want a company to pay over the odds for a piece of land based on what theoretically could be built there, even if the likelihood of it happening is remote?
Or are we talking about a sale of land including a levy put into a section 106 agreement to provide additional monies for another build next to, lets say, a motorway?
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I was comparing the last few seasons with (admittedly one TV game) how Batley played. I don't expect us to do much this season, so playing entertaining rugby and competing while the team grows to know each other will do me fine.'"
I actually thought we played some good rugby under Kear. The last 18 months were pretty dire, but with what was happening with the club and the quality of players we had, that is only to be expected. The play-off season was good to watch, and we started the following year like an house on fire. It weren't till we lost Brough, Tronc and Newton in quick succession that things started to go down hill, as I'm sure it would at any club which lost three such influencial players. Having said that, we're throwing it about well this year and we just need that killer instinct when we are dominating teams. I'm sure having Amor back will help, and if Smith and John can click at half-back then I'm sure the wins will start coming.
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "I actually thought we played some good rugby under Kear. The last 18 months were pretty dire, but with what was happening with the club and the quality of players we had, that is only to be expected. The play-off season was good to watch, and we started the following year like an house on fire. It weren't till we lost Brough, Tronc and Newton in quick succession that things started to go down hill, as I'm sure it would at any club which lost three such influencial players. Having said that, we're throwing it about well this year and we just need that killer instinct when we are dominating teams. I'm sure having Amor back will help, and if Smith and John can click at half-back then I'm sure the wins will start coming.'"
We did, some great stuff (by our recent standards )from 2007 - 2009 - the decline on field had little to do with JK although I'm sure he did what was best for him towards the end - who wouldn't.
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| Quote: Wakey Til I Die "I understand why they would want to sell WR for housing and get their cut, that bit makes sense. What I don't get is how does it tie in with the sale of the Nestle site? How and why should Cas gain out of that? Its nothing to do with them, surely the money will be Nestles', less opus' cut?'"
Could it be that with Tigers fans on board they would have less resistance to building on Nestles site, the couple of rows of houses between the two sites might not want the development, the houses do seem to be in the way when you look on google earth with any master plan for the area!
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| Quote: vastman "We did, some great stuff (by our recent standards )from 2007 - 2009 - the decline on field had little to do with JK although I'm sure he did what was best for him towards the end - who wouldn't.'"
The season we beat Saints at home after being 2 or 3 scores down early on was very good to watch. Could of been the same season Klein stopped us from beating Leeds by penalising us to death only for us to come back really strongly and nearly nick it. Although the Leeds game could've been the year after I lose track. Either way we did play some decent RL under Kear that should not be forgotten
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| Quote: TanTastic "Could it be that with Tigers fans on board they would have less resistance to building on Nestles site, the couple of rows of houses between the two sites might not want the development, the houses do seem to be in the way when you look on google earth with any master plan for the area!'"
think about the 106 agreement at NM and transfer it to the full length of wheldon road. do the maths.
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