Ah vans signed for widnes 2yr deal

James maloney from NZW we have been after him a while hopefully in the bag

No he isn't, activated a one year option for 2012 a while ago.

Bugger!

Me? Oh you mean Chris Dean

TFFT he is a winker

said earlier that we should dump all overseas signings with the exception of 4 and all of these should be marquee signings...

of those who could make a difference, and suit the English game I would go for...

Matt Bowen - full back NQC
Adam MacDougall - centre NK
Alan Tounge - Hooker CR
Neville Costigan - Back Row NK

Agree with the general point, dont watch the NRL so no idea of the players you have suggested so can't comment on them - but you are right. 4 absolute max but proper quality.

I would say we need to go all out for the best hooker we can find and afford, look at the difference Monahan makse at Wire - get that position right and you are well on your way. Next priority would be a pair of big props, 1 proper grafter who plays long minutes and 1 with an offload game. I can't see us getting hold of a hooker from over here so that would most likely need to be an import but props we could probably find without going there.....

I totally agree. For me the key positions for overseas players are props because all clubs need at least 5 and not many manage that from home grown. The others are 6,7 and 9 again because you generally need at least 2 of each and they are all specialists. The only other positions I'd consider are F/B and L/F and they would need to be exceptional.

What is a total admission of defeat is signing S/R, Centres and wingers. If as a nation let alone as a club we can't produce enough players in those more utility positions then I suggest we call it a day for RL in this country.

If Hickey has anything about him he will be busting his gut(s) from now until February to get himself ready for next year. If by the start of the season he is still a fat mess of a man he needs to be locked in a dark room against his will, probably with his hands and legs shackled, until he loses some weight. It may be that he is given vitamin D injections along with an allocation of gruel he can have in small but often portions.

Hopefully that should be one of the props for next year sorted

I'd go all out for Bowen, he's pure class but I think most clubs will be after him. I think Wesser at Souths is also available.

As for hooker, i'd go for Lincoln Withers at Cru.

He was very lively for them on Sunday and looked very good, but having said that I would probably have looked good at hooker for Crusaders on Sunday!

The man is a liability!! He has regularly been dropped this season for being as useless as half the morons that pretend to play for Wakefield each weekend. If we do make a move for a player from overseas, that player has to be quality.

Spot on - quality. There has been some crazy suggestions for recruits for next year on here, ranging from pretty much everybody in the Crusaders (bottom of the league) team to Patrick Ah Van to even Shad bloody Royston the other day......