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Quote: Herbert Splatt "Chairman
Check to make sure the final few names are actually "Directors", not senior managers with fancy "director" titles. That is quite common. I haven't checked, but its £1 from www.companieshouse.gov.uk - go to "webcheck".
Directors are only banned if their conduct has merited it. It requires a specific formal process. Relatively few directors actually cop a ban, and none should who have acted responsibly. From what I have read about Richardson, its possible he COULD be in trouble - but its premature to judge based solely on what you read on hear or in the papers. My guess is it is very unlikely any of them will.
hth
ps: just had a quick (free) look: Barnes was appointed in 2008. The first three - have they been on the board a while? for earlier appointments, you can't see the name without paying for a report/document, but the last board change before then was 2001.
I would be almost certain that Elston, Stephenson and Kear are NOT Directors, and their positioning on the list suggests that. Venables ditto - and his title "Associate Director" is one regularly used to give someone's ego a fancy title that actually means bugger all. Again, his position on the list gives further support to the point re the other three.
If I could be d with spending £1, and pratting about with the hard-work payment a d download process, I could tell you for sure. Surely one of you guys can download the latest Annual Return or the Current Appointments Report?
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Quote: Herbert Splatt "Chairman
Check to make sure the final few names are actually "Directors", not senior managers with fancy "director" titles. That is quite common. I haven't checked, but its £1 from www.companieshouse.gov.uk - go to "webcheck".
Directors are only banned if their conduct has merited it. It requires a specific formal process. Relatively few directors actually cop a ban, and none should who have acted responsibly. From what I have read about Richardson, its possible he COULD be in trouble - but its premature to judge based solely on what you read on hear or in the papers. My guess is it is very unlikely any of them will.
hth
ps: just had a quick (free) look: Barnes was appointed in 2008. The first three - have they been on the board a while? for earlier appointments, you can't see the name without paying for a report/document, but the last board change before then was 2001.
I would be almost certain that Elston, Stephenson and Kear are NOT Directors, and their positioning on the list suggests that. Venables ditto - and his title "Associate Director" is one regularly used to give someone's ego a fancy title that actually means bugger all. Again, his position on the list gives further support to the point re the other three.
If I could be d with spending £1, and pratting about with the hard-work payment a d download process, I could tell you for sure. Surely one of you guys can download the latest Annual Return or the Current Appointments Report?
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| Quote: Adeybull "Check to make sure the final few names are actually "Directors", not senior managers with fancy "director" titles. That is quite common. I haven't checked, but its £1 from
Cheers for that Adey, the titles were from the WTW website, so I had to trust its as much what they want us to believe. JK has been described as a director in the press previously.
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| 'Managing Director' is such an ironic title. And still, three people with titles which are very similar roles.
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| director of coaching i believe. Cant imagine he has contributed to the club financially
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| Quote: Herbert Splatt "Chairman
The only directors who were going to resign if the £500k came forwards were the Executive Directors - Ted, Eric Timmins & Ray Barnes.
Richard Venables & Andrew Wright are unpaid, non-exec directors while the rest are paid employees of the club who sit on the BoD as part of their role at the club.
As Adeybull has said, only the Executive Directors could find themselves being banned IF it was established they had done something that warranted a ban - but that is for someone else to decide rather than the contributors to this forum.
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| Quote: RDM "The only directors who were going to resign if the £500k came forwards were the Executive Directors - Ted, Eric Timmins & Ray Barnes.
Richard Venables & Andrew Wright are unpaid, non-exec directors while the rest are paid employees of the club who sit on the BoD as part of their role at the club.
As Adeybull has said, only the Executive Directors could find themselves being banned IF it was established they had done something that warranted a ban - but that is for someone else to decide rather than the contributors to this forum.'"
Hopefully going into admin will allow the employment of Ted's daughter to be terminated. If she is still at the club, it will be a joke
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| See my update to my post re director status - seems to accord with what RDM posted just above.
A non-executive director is still a director with full legal liabilities if they are registered as a Director. The law makes no distinction between and Executive and a Non-Executive Director. The key point is are they a "True" director?
And yes, only "True" directors are exposed to being banned, and that decision is taken elsewhere and after the report on the directors' conduct submitted (by law) by the Administrator and, if appointed, the Liquidator, and speculation is both futile and also potentially libelous, to be honest.
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Hopefully going into admin will allow the employment of Ted's daughter to be terminated. If she is still at the club, it will be a joke'"
Agreed. Need a completely new start.
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| Quote: Adeybull "See my update to my post re director status - seems to accord with what RDM posted just above.
A non-executive director is still a director with full legal liabilities if they are registered as a Director. The law makes no distinction between and Executive and a Non-Executive Director. The key point is are they a "True" director?
And yes, only "True" directors are exposed to being banned, and that decision is taken elsewhere and after the report on the directors' conduct submitted (by law) by the Administrator and, if appointed, the Liquidator, and speculation is both futile and also potentially libelous, to be honest.'"
The "Non-Exec" directors were not formally named as directors on the 2010 annual return to Companies House. As per my previous post, Ted, Eric & Ray are named as directors while Diane Maskill was named as Company Secretary.
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: RDM "The "Non-Exec" directors were not formally named as directors on the 2010 annual return to Companies House. As per my previous post, Ted, Eric & Ray are named as directors while Diane Maskill was named as Company Secretary.'"
Usually the company secretary is a director , they are the one responsible legally , every limited co has to have a company secretary
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| Quote: Starbug "Usually the company secretary is a director , they are the one responsible legally , every limited co has to have a company secretary'"
Wrong pal.
They may be a director, but do not have to be. In quoted companies it is very unusual for the Secretary to be a director. Many many very small companies have the owner as the sole director, and his.her spouse as company secretary.
Every company does NOT now have to have a Secretary. My personal service company does not.
The secretary has certain legal responsibilities, and is usually the only real "Officer" of the company when the term "Directors and Officers" is used. But the Secretary's legal exposure is a fraction of that of a Director.
Been both, on various occasions and in various companies.;
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Adeybull "Wrong pal.
They may be a director, but do not have to be. In quoted companies it is very unusual for the Secretary to be a director. Many many very small companies have the owner as the sole director, and his.her spouse as company secretary.
Every company does NOT now have to have a Secretary. My personal service company does not.
The secretary has certain legal responsibilities, and is usually the only real "Officer" of the company when the term "Directors and Officers" is used. But the Secretary's legal exposure is a fraction of that of a Director.
Been both, on various occasions and in various companies.;'"
I did say ' usually ' as in my experience ( wrongly it would seem ) it has been a director as ' secretary '
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| Quote: Starbug "I did say ' usually ' as in my experience ( wrongly it would seem
And you were completely wrong on your other two points. At least in your first point you allowed yourself a back door!
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Adeybull "And you were completely wrong on your other two points. At least in your first point you allowed yourself a back door!
Not the first time I've been wrong , and doubtful it will be the last
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| Quote: Starbug "Not the first time I've been wrong , and doubtful it will be the last
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