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| Quote: Trinity Till Death "Without going into this too deeply, there is clearly an awful lot of benefits to Wakefield as a whole. The site will be developed now or in the near future due to it's location. Whilst nobody wants to see a development on their back yard, i would suggest those against think carefully before opposing such a development.
The land WILL be developed whether it's by Yorkcourt or another, and sometimes it's better to work as one to ensure all parties are happy. You never know what the next scheme maybe. I'd love to swap my view of the Toxic tip for Yorkcourt's proposal's!'"
100% correct, well put.
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| Quote: TRB "Don't be sorry - I merely meant to point out the risks.
I don't know the guy - I was 'profiling' based on details available. I genuinely feel though that they are now making the issue that of the industrial elements merely beacuse they feel that is weakest link. If there were no industrial elements, there would be some other element they didn't like - that's how it goes!
There's another saying "give them enough rope....." to mearly discount peoples views by guessing/profiling makes you look arrogant, or stupid or both.
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| It gets worse this forum every day, we cant even agree to "pack down" against the only poster brave /daft enough to post something on here against newmarket.
Sure we have ridiculed him and the video ,but a simple cut and paste job of some of the comments on here could be used against the development, remember WAR IS DIRTY!
fancy a wakefield fans cant agree even on their own forum story?????
basically think before you post on this topic!
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| Get a grip man!!
This guy posting, and people agreeing or disagreeing is exactly the purpose of this forum, as has been pointed out on other threads certain people only seem to want a certain type of thread on here lately.
And anyone who thinks it being discussed one way or another on here is going to be detrimental to the development is wildly dellusional.
He's posted, it's being debated, it's what this is all about, end of!!!
Nobody is agreeing with him and his wish for either the ground or development not to progress, just some of his concerns, giving him the opportunity to air it on here is called democracy, although that doesn't always sit well on here.
Come what may we'll get the ground or not based on the plans and people involved, not this forum!!!!
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| At the end of the day who cares about a few frogs and insects. There's too many about anyway.
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| Quote: Humphrey "At the end of the day who cares about a few frogs and insects. There's too many about anyway.'"
Very true wildlife and all that stuff well overrated. Concrete over the whole of the countryside I say that'll teach em...
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| Quote: chapster "
fancy a wakefield fans cant agree even on their own forum story?????'"
I'd be very worried if there was anything we all agreed on.
Quote: chapster "basically think before you post on this topic!'"
Why should this thread have different rules to all the others?
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| Quote: Humphrey "At the end of the day who cares about a few frogs and insects. There's too many about anyway.'"
you could have a point here
according to the tenor of the original poster Trinity have been around over a hundred years and therefore would survive ok!!!
that means that frogs, newts and other wild things have been around for thousands of years and will... by the same logic... be fine!!
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| Quote: TRB "Whilst I think our vasty is being a tad harsh
If you are 'preserving the heritage of the site' then you have to go back to the time when it was a PIT and providing employment!! oh lets see now thats what they are planning to do..
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| Quote: chapster "God having looked at the wccg site the whole thing turns in to farce, hey everyone theres a crisp packet on the floor on a street in wakefield
There wont be anyone near their homes!!! Have they seen the plans???
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| Here we go rlhttps://www.wakefieldccg.co.uk/blog/rl comment here. What a silly video!! all those people on it will gladly want a new stadium for WTW!!!! and a harsh message to them why move to a house near a rugby stadium if they didnt think all these things would happen??? I'm sure Belle VUE was there before they all moved in... anyway thats a side issue...
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| Am I not right in thinking any planning application will be accompanied by an environmental impact/aspect assessment (Town and Country planning Act I think)
This will highlight both the positive and negative impacts to the env/community. It will also highlight the negative impact on the flora/wildlife whilst also offering up suggestions to reduce that impact-Ive worked on jobs where bat bricks are inserted into buildings so the bats can get in and out with bat boxes inside the roof space to allow the bats to fly around, buildings that have plant life growing in/on the brick work, roads(A1M) that have badger runs under them and management arrangements for the newts etc.
Organisations such as Natural England will get involved if the land is particularly "special". Generally solutions can be found to appease all sides-Naturally there will always be people who lose out.
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| Quote: wire-quin "Am I not right in thinking any planning application will be accompanied by an environmental impact/aspect assessment (Town and Country planning Act I think)
This will highlight both the positive and negative impacts to the env/community. It will also highlight the negative impact on the flora/wildlife whilst also offering up suggestions to reduce that impact-Ive worked on jobs where bat bricks are inserted into buildings so the bats can get in and out with bat boxes inside the roof space to allow the bats to fly around, buildings that have plant life growing in/on the brick work, roads(A1M) that have badger runs under them and management arrangements for the newts etc.
Organisations such as Natural England will get involved if the land is particularly "special". Generally solutions can be found to appease all sides-Naturally there will always be people who lose out.'"
Theres no buildings and its not special.
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| arhh got it a ground with no stands, roads, club shop, bars-just a pitch that the newts can use Mon-Sat but not Sun 12-5pm
Sound environmentally friendly to me-how could there be any opposition to this proposal.
I suspect Toulouse, Paris, Widnes are all in support of it!!
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| Quote: vastman "IMO it is a site ripe for development. Very little residential, easy access from motorways, a site of no value historical or natural or "HERITAGE" don't make me laugh.
If this site doesn't get the green light and goes to a full enquiry because a few dozen nimby's are looking for a cause to fill their drab lives then Wakefield is doomed to remain a back water.
I'm all for fairness and the voice of the little man being heard. But when it's a few dozen reactionaries stopping something 15,000 people want and will provide jobs hundreds who need them then I become hostile. I'm hostile because there come a point where the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the very few in this case. It's a form of reverse bullying, the nobody having there moment for kicking the big guy. This despite the overblown retoric has nothing to to with belief and everything to do with being petty and awkward for the sake of it IMHO.
Just using the word HERITAGE shows you to be a fraud IMHO.
I'm sure some will slap me down for my post but frankly I'm sick of these people getting in the way of genuine progress for the majority for very little reason.
Vasty this is the first time i will ever say this but you are spot on !!!
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