Quite right but you can only generate that extra income if you have the facilities to enable you to do so. Thats were Belle Vue falls short.

and we are all fooling ourselves if we think we use someone elses ground we wil get to keep beer sales etc etc etc

barnsley and doncaster are no brainers for me, whats ther point??

sales pitch to new barnsley trin fans ???
hi were here for a year or two then we are going to move to further away than where you wernt bothered about coming previously???

While it may be ok for those in cars, for those who use public transport to get to games, the extra time for travelling, especially on a Sunday, would be a nightmare.

I'm sure Barnsley FC would love us there, just for the cash!

When we are talking about our poor crowds - going on with what somebody else said all the play off crowds are bad look at Wigan tonight

who don't? the fans? the ones who do turn up dont deserve to be in superleague because many 'fans' dont? strange logic !

The club.

Think it was partly a play-off quirk. Wigan only got over 8,000, and there looked to be a couple of thousand Cas fans there. So if you assume that Wigan only had 6,000 of there own there, we didn't do too badly, as there were only 20 Catalan fans there.

The Oakwell debate is a matter of timing alone. We can't move out of Belle Vue until Stanley is a definite. If Stanley falls through and we get a franchise out of Oakwell, then we have to stay there, and there is no longer a rugby club in Wakefield. If Stanley is a definite and work has started, then it might be an option just in case work is behind schedule.

On the other hand, if Stanley is under construction, I would rather see a few more games at the old lady of Belle Vue than go to Barnsley.

Wouldn't we also lose a franchise point as well at Oakwell for not filling 40% of the ground, plus the loss of the community stuff if our base is no longer in Wakefield?

surely the club and the fans are intrinsicly linked?

going through the attendances for the predictions it did open up my mind that we hadn't done that bad for the crowd,
Half way through the second half I just wish the crowd on both sides would of walked behind the sticks filled the end up and cheered Trin on, what I site that would of been (too many beers I think) but we do lack a togetherness, sporadic voices hear and there never get the crowd going

All fair points but in response.

Yes having now seen the other three gates we did not shape that bad but we were lucky it was a very nice mild evening. If it had been raining we may have lost quite a few more from that gate. Rain would not have been such an issue at the other grounds.

Don't see any reason why the community activity should be stopped in Wakefield infact we could increase it by expanding into other areas around the north of Barnsley.

Yes we may loose the 40% crowd point but we would gain the 2 other points by ground being fit for purpose and 12000 capacity.

Forgive me I just can not see the benefits of moving away from Belle Vue with approx 4-5K home support to then move to an area generally uninterested in RL to lose roughly 1.5K fans on a consistent basis. The one thing that is killing attendances is the price and the recession.

A couple of matches at Barnsley would suit, perhaps one of the big games (Leeds etc) in order to generate interest but you move the club outside of Wakefield for a year then the already limited presence the club has in the city would be lost. The club need more exposure not less.

The play off attendances are notoriously low, the all conquering Leeds only managed 11K with 2K Hull KR support, Saint even worse. Take the Huddersfield following then they would’ve had approx 5K.

A lot of comments about low attendances point to the fact a single person expense at match is roughly £20, for a family you looking at quadrupling that. I would like to see some sort of family ticket where by if mum and dad come along the kids get free tickets if pre-purchased.

The Wakefield support came to see the relegation decider, which fair enough was car crash entertainment, but it was still at Belle Vue. An 8K crowd came to Belle Vue when Diversity were there. The ground, to understate, has seen better days but the value of the ticket to the customer needs to be increased and then the support will come.

Must of them sat around us then!!

Maybe I have understated them, because they were a noisy bunch, and good on 'em. They had come a long way and saw their team win.

I think the point about losing the presence in Wakefield for a full year is a good one. The occasional match, yes, as a marketing tool, but not a full season. I just can't see the benefit of moving out if Stanley is making good progress, because if the spade can hit the dirt in time, we could well be ahead of a few other clubs plans (particularly if Cas are still dreaming of their own stadium) and that would surely do us good in the franchise application.

The point about value for money is a good one, and maybe we ought to take some gambles on concessionary and family packages.

I know the issue is that our attendances are low but look

League match , Play off match , Down
Leeds v HKR 16192 , 11220 , 35%
Saints v Hudds 8708 , 6157 , 29%
Wiagan v Cas 12079 , 8689 , 28%
Trin v Cats 4807 , 4008 , 17%

This doesn't take away from the fact that our attendances are v poor and the club has to take responsibility for doing something about it but it does put it in to the context of generally lower attendances for the first round of the play offs. As far as other's criticism of our crowd on Sat - these figures show that we actually did quite well!!