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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "The problem could be that Trinity in the championship could also mean no Trinity at all. We will have to cover the loss of the Sky money plus service the loan on the ground. We cannot do this on increased revenue from the ground alone so we would have to go through further cost cutting measures.
We would start next season with no squad and a lot of debt. I know you are not MENSA material but this must be the obvious conclusion.
The Chairman doesn’t believe in promotion and relegation so please explain what our route would be back to SL.
With regards the ground how much have we actually invested as a club above what we received from outside sources. I would also add how many of us not in your lofty position knew we were operating under an exemption from the RFL and why this season surely there were many when this could have been withdrawn.'"
I can’t answer for Vastly but I do know what I’ve seen and heard, and if pushed I could probably find the reports to back up. The Directors of Trinity I believe spent of their own money £1.2 million, mostly on New Floodlights, new roof on the community Hub and the large new Screen on the North Terrace.
Regarding the threat of being relegated from SL due to BV not up to SL standards, this has been well documented over the years, even the fact that Trinity had Skys monies reduced due to poor stadium facilities. |
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| Quote: vastman "What staggers me is that he has to explain any of this.
I'm not MENSA, I don't have a degree, I've never run a RL club.
Yet to me it's all self evident and always was.
However out of all the things he said the most important point is this...
It wouldn't matter how much we spent on players or where we finish this season, THE GAME WAS UP, we'd have been kicked out even if we reached a GF. It's not an either or, the Council had condemned the North Stand and the RFL had condemned BV full stop, and lets be right they have given us 24 years grace!!!
Yes the team is threadbare, we may well get relegated but that's irrelevant because as I say we always would have been. These people spouting on about all the money invested in the ground and nothing on the team need to get this through their skulls. There was never any choice, Ground first, team second.
A Trinity in the Championship is better than no Trinity at all, that is the stark truth - this season is the ultimate last throw of the dice and always was, even if we'd signed the entire Australian Test Squad it will still be BV that decides it all.'"
If that was been communicated the Club form the powers that be why did IMG just give the Ground criteria a weighting of 15%. It's basically given Cas a lifeline. |
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| Quote: deeHell "If that was been communicated the Club form the powers that be why did IMG just give the Ground criteria a weighting of 15%. It's basically given Cas a lifeline.'"
The RFL, not IMG, who've only been involved in the last 18 months or so. The start of all this proceeds IMG.
Cas must've had the same threats, if not questions should be asked. |
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Excellent update from JM, who always comes across very well. Let's just hope that these potential investor's do come on board and are quickly able to give us the big cash injection that we desperately need !!
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There are some very wealthy people in Wakefield. Whether they are happy to lose how ever much a year is another question.
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Thought it was a great interview and gave us alll a insight where we sit .
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In support of Vasty I haven’t head anything new in this statement…. It’s all been laid out before… chapter and verse…
Particularly as from next year it’s not about promotion and relegation .. so we could have the Aussie test team and win the league.. and still get a low B rating… and still have no facilities… our best option is on the path we are taking…
No ifs
No buts
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Great to hear Andy Kelly on the five live podcast bulling not only our pitch up but also our coach , whilst commending our performance against a much stronger giants squad .
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When you listen to someone like JM assessing where we are and with no panic in his voice it does put things into perspective.
We have been ravaged by injuries to key players and played some top teams, certainly not disgracing ourselves against Catalans (which we could have won) or Huddersfield.
Regardless of where we are next season I'll be there and I disagree with some about the Championship will ruin us, there are some great clubs in that league and some good local derbies - I haven't given up but I'm sick of a SL dictated by the same teams year in year out!
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| Quote: Spookisback "In support of Vasty I haven’t head anything new in this statement…. It’s all been laid out before… chapter and verse…
Particularly as from next year it’s not about promotion and relegation .. so we could have the Aussie test team and win the league.. and still get a low B rating… and still have no facilities… our best option is on the path we are taking…
Have I read it wrong, I thought you were in jeapardy (sp) if you finished at the bottom? Surely (and this is a ridiculous scenario) but if we finished top of SL with a C grading and the team topping the Championship with a B rating they wouldn’t relegate us? Would they?
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| Quote: JINJER "
Yes or at least they would have done had we not started the redevelopment. Unlike Cas for example, BV was not just un-fit for purpose but was about to have its capacity cut to 4,600 (approx.). This would been way below basic SL criteria, but more to the point would have made the club financially impotent. That would have meant that the money spinners against Leeds, Cas and a few others couldn't happen. If 4,600 was the biggest crowd we were ever going to get in 2023 then we'd have had no more money than we have now. But unlike now there would have been no way out of it. At present we have a short term issue, without the re-development it would have been permanent.
Truth is we have to suck it up this season and run with what we have. Nobody is unaware of the risks or the possible outcome, but there simply is no choice. I'm not having a pop at you or most other posters here, I'm being genuine, if you have an alternative I'd like to hear it because I can't see one.
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| Quote: Kettykat "Great to hear Andy Kelly on the five live podcast bulling not only our pitch up but also our coach , whilst commending our performance against a much stronger giants squad .'"
He was very fair I thought.
And lets be honest, (although it counts for nowt) we played better against Shudds than Cas did........... |
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| Quote: BarnsleyGull "He was very fair I thought.
And lets be honest, (although it counts for nowt) we played better against Shudds than Cas did...........'"
Truth is Wigan apart we have not been terrible, we just lack something. On a better night we could have scalped Catalans whilst Hudds were there to be beaten, they were one try better than us on the night but it could just as easily have been the other way around.
I accept we are dull to watch, but you have to build the foundations first. |
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| Quote: vastman "What staggers me is that he has to explain any of this.
I'm not MENSA, I don't have a degree, I've never run a RL club.
Yet to me it's all self evident and always was.
However out of all the things he said the most important point is this...
It wouldn't matter how much we spent on players or where we finish this season, THE GAME WAS UP, we'd have been kicked out even if we reached a GF. It's not an either or, the Council had condemned the North Stand and the RFL had condemned BV full stop, and lets be right they have given us 24 years grace!!!
Yes the team is threadbare, we may well get relegated but that's irrelevant because as I say we always would have been. These people spouting on about all the money invested in the ground and nothing on the team need to get this through their skulls. There was never any choice, Ground first, team second.
A Trinity in the Championship is better than no Trinity at all, that is the stark truth - this season is the ultimate last throw of the dice and always was, even if we'd signed the entire Australian Test Squad it will still be BV that decides it all.'"
Absolutely correct Vastman. |
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| Quote: JINJER "
It’s another case of clarity… from what I read (understand would be impossible as yet) if you are grade A you are in… until there are a minimum of 12 grade A clubs,, SL will be filled out with the top scoring Grade B clubs (regardless of where they finish in the league) … when there are 12 grade A … any additional or new grade A will be added to expand the league…
I assume this applies to all teams within the club…
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