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| I Have not been overly impressed. a couple of ok games that's about it- Johnstone on other hand is class- I am hearing a NRL team is going to make a play and buy out his contract
one that has already got a few Englishmen in their squad
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| Quote: BOJ04 "I Have not been overly impressed. a couple of ok games that's about it- Johnstone on other hand is class- I am hearing a NRL team is going to make a play and buy out his contract
one that has already got a few Englishmen in their squad'"
Considering his age and lack of experience I've been very impressed with Max, especially in such an injury weakened team.
On the other hand whilst I liked young tom prior to his injury he seems to have gone backwards and it was alarming how easily Rocky ran him down recently.
If an NRL team really had the money to buy out a wingers contract then surely they would go for the proven complete winger. Super Leagues record holder for most tries in a season, Denny.
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| Quote: vastman "
I don't expect him to really master the most difficult part of a FB's job (IMO) for another few years but he needs to improve for next season as he was targeted last night and it forced a poor performance IMO and he needs to do better. That said I accept Hull are a ferocious unit and even the very best FB would struggle.
Am sure that CC hasn't noticed this so your advice will change the training regime immediately lol. in my opinion he's already mastered the most difficult aspect of the fb role - reading the game and his positional play. This has been outstanding and he has a natural footballing ability - the odd game that craig hall played at full back our kick defence was horrendous - mainly because no one around him believed he was going to defuse the bomb.
Totally agree at times he's looked knackered and a bit vulnerable but at 19 and not the biggest fb in the league another off season and 7 or 8 pounds of muscle and i think we will see a different player - am sure he will have the 1 shirt next season.
Johnstone i really like but in the long term think max will be the more successful player
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| Has all the attributes to an international fullback. I think for a 19 year old he has been exceptional this season - obvious areas to work on but why single him out for that -all the team need to work on defence! In fact that has to be close season priority!
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Considering his age and lack of experience I've been very impressed with Max, especially in such an injury weakened team.
On the other hand whilst I liked young tom prior to his injury he seems to have gone backwards and it was alarming how easily Rocky ran him down recently.
If an NRL team really had the money to buy out a wingers contract then surely they would go for the proven complete winger. Super Leagues record holder for most tries in a season, Denny.
As quick as Rocky is he's a distant second to Tom in a race, you're judging Tom harshly, he was returning from a bad leg injury.
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| Jowett had plenty of game time this year I've been impressed by him. Think the last 10 games his defensive effort has been shocking tho but the lad maybe tired. Hope to see an improvement next year.
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| I am really pleased with Max's progress and that he has had such a good run of games. He plays in a position where having a string of games is important to help him develop and I don't think he needs resting too much.
He is already good at certain things - reading the game and cleaning up kicks, linking and support play and taking high balls with confidence.
As has been pointed out he does get beaten to easily 1-on-1 sometimes but at his age it is something he can work on with the coaches - his defensive confidence should also grow as he develops physically.
I think he will be our full back for a few years to come now.
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Considering his age and lack of experience I've been very impressed with Max, especially in such an injury weakened team.
On the other hand whilst I liked young tom prior to his injury he seems to have gone backwards and it was alarming how easily Rocky ran him down recently.
If an NRL team really had the money to buy out a wingers contract then surely they would go for the proven complete winger. Super Leagues record holder for most tries in a season, Denny.
let's not forget that Max and Tom are both rookies and tbf play outside some pretty low grade centres.
Great achievement for Solomona however, I hope he does go the NRL
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| Quote: pocket 4's "let's not forget that Max and Tom are both rookies and tbf play outside some pretty low grade centres.
Great achievement for Solomona however, I hope he does go the NRL'"
No doubt Solomona is a gem picked up by Cas'.
With the same service however TJ will also score a bucketful of tries in any season.
Additionally, he's a homegrown talent with lots more to come yet .
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| I will echo that, re Tom Johnstone and his injury.
I recall coming back from a broken ankle, and it took a couple of months really from coming back, and actually getting any kind of pace back.
A pre season behind him, and would like to think that come the start of 2017, he will be back to something like his best.
Also, it will be good to see the Ash Gibson back, I was talking to him the other day, he says he is now fit and raring to go for pre season. It will be like having a new player. Thought before his injury, he was starting to look ok, and a handful to opposing defences
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| I dont think that this is too much of an understatement but, without the progression of Tom & Max, we would have been unlikely to make the top 8.
Max was unlucky not to start the season at FB after an excellent pre season and he was instantly better than one of our "big" close season signings, BJB, in that position.
Well done to both lads and lets hope that they continue their excellent progress in the red, white & blue of Trinity.
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| Quote: pocket 4's "I am really pleased with Max's progress and that he has had such a good run of games. He plays in a position where having a string of games is important to help him develop and I don't think he needs resting too much.
He is already good at certain things - reading the game and cleaning up kicks, linking and support play and taking high balls with confidence.
As has been pointed out he does get beaten to easily 1-on-1 sometimes but at his age it is something he can work on with the coaches - his defensive confidence should also grow as he develops physically.
I think he will be our full back for a few years to come now.'"
Show me any fullback who doesn't!!
As has been said previously by others, if your fullback is having to make 1-on-1 tackles it is generally because someone else has missed a tackle elsewhere. I'm not saying he doesn't need to improve that particular skill, but he's by no means the only fullback in SL that has that issue. In our team it is probably highlighted more than in others as we have been pretty shocking defensively across the whole line.
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| God some people are a bit touchy. I'm shocked to say I actually side with Vastman this time, what's wrong with a little bit of constructive criticism? If you were to rate his first season in the first team you'd probably say 8/10, safe as houses under the high ball, good positioning and links up very well in attack. But over the off season could do to bulk up a little bit and get some work in at holding up defenders over the try line. This is a forum after all, not some cult where you can only lavish the players with praise.
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| Quote: jakeyg95 "God some people are a bit touchy. I'm shocked to say I actually side with Vastman this time, what's wrong with a little bit of constructive criticism? If you were to rate his first season in the first team you'd probably say 8/10, safe as houses under the high ball, good positioning and links up very well in attack. But over the off season could do to bulk up a little bit and get some work in at holding up defenders over the try line. This is a forum after all, not some cult where you can only lavish the players with praise.'"
You'll get barred calling folk cults.
Seriously tho, I think what people are saying. On a number of occasions Max has had a player running at him and not made the slightest attempt to tackle them. Maybe because of his shoulder? And he may not have stopped them anyway, just looks poor when it happens
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