FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Teflon Elston
51 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7423
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: tigerman1 "Dont know if its been mentioned before but isnt he one of you shareholders, if so thats probbably why. It will be difficult for him to be taken seriously in future though by you fans i would have thought as he seems to have been a very naughty boy telling fibs on Radio And Rangi and Clarke aren't leaving are they? icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3192No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2022Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I've tried to keep out of this and I know I probably should but until everything is in the open I think people should leave James alone as some of the criticisms levied against him and his family are just not true.

Some on here want to be Judge, Jury and Executioner without any evidence.

All I'm saying is please leave the Guy alone and when the issue the Club is facing has been resolved then think again.

TRB
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10926
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2021Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Just what is keeping the new Antichrist in a job? Serious question to those in the know.'"


I'll tell you what - he's very good at large parts of his job; is fighting for the club; was working to an agreed budget and he's employed by people cleverer than me who have decided that he is better working on our behalf than not!

As SC says, I think many seem to have taken 2 and 2 and come to 7 - all is not as some would suggest.

Give it time and see what comes out.

RankPostsTeam
International Star3882
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Sandal Cat "I've tried to keep out of this and I know I probably should but until everything is in the open I think people should leave James alone as some of the criticisms levied against him and his family are just not true.

Some on here want to be Judge, Jury and Executioner without any evidence.

All I'm saying is please leave the Guy alone and when the issue the Club is facing has been resolved then think again.'"

Thanks for your input James! icon_lol.gif
Seriously I think most fans are just sick of the serial mis-management of the club year in year out, going from one financial crisis to another with the fans expected to bail the club out when those in the know like Elston have come out with mis-truths in the media yet remain at the club seemingly on the pay roll.
A city the size of Wakefield with a long tradition of rugby league (as well as the only professional sports club in the city) in the heartland of the game should have a strong and secure club but businessman come and go creating the roller coaster experience albeit more lows than highs. icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11905No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Twice the club has been put into financial difficulty and twice the same person has been the CEO.

[sizeedited Poptart - lets try to keep the language under control thanks[/size

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4163
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2021Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



So if elston isn't to blame who is? I can't seriously believe the CEO didnt know we were in the poop before tt , molloy and fozzard joined after all the club had already had countless ccj's and two winding up orders

He also appeared on radio Leeds a few weeks ago giving the impression that all was well again when he must have known we were in dire straits

If he wasn't to blame (which I still believe he must be) then he was either naive or complicit in allowing others to put the club where we are now

His statement after glover took over if we have a quid we will spend 90p also leaves his credibility in tatters IMO

If full details come out that show he has no blame then I would apologise but I don't expect to need to be saying sorry anytime soon.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach241No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2015Feb 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: JINJER "And Rangi and Clarke aren't leaving are they? As far as I know with Steve Gill he has said from the off that if Rangi wanted to leave the club would not stand in his way and would do their best to make it happen, as for Clarke yes Gill has said that he will not sell him while he is incharge as he was the one that brought him to the club and as far as i know he is still with us, unless you know something different to that.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3192No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2022Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: asmadasa "Thanks for your input James!
We're all sick of the serial mis-management but we are where we are unfortunately but now is not the time for witch hunts, scapegoats and hangings without trial.

What we need is to get out of the clag, learn from the mistakes that we keep on making and then make sure it doesn't happen again.

When all is sorted and all the facts known people can judge, but at least they will judge fairly.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4130No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



when ryan signed for wigan he was offered a massive ammount of money by wakefield to sign as was liam sutcliffe who went to leeds. jimmy came and met me in the mopsey and even if ryan didnt sign wanted me back in the coaching set up on a full time basis working with tony in devoloping players. he offered me a post and work in the community. he said he wanted people who cared about the club back at the club. he crapped on me and iv never trusted him since. hes left us in the mire and if he had any decency would leave the club now.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator21036
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "when ryan signed for wigan he was offered a massive ammount of money by wakefield to sign as was liam sutcliffe who went to leeds. jimmy came and met me in the mopsey and even if ryan didnt sign wanted me back in the coaching set up on a full time basis working with tony in devoloping players. he offered me a post and work in the community. he said he wanted people who cared about the club back at the club. he crapped on me and iv never trusted him since. hes left us in the mire and if he had any decency would leave the club now.'"


The biggest shame for me is that I agree with a lot of what he says......it's just he doesn't always seem to do it.
Not sure whether that is capability or interest or integrity

Those two players are obviously the type that we should be going for (within our budget) and from what I here Mopsey, you would be a good addition to the coaching set up.
The fact that he then didn't do it is the real shame, or at least kept some bridges in tact for another day.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2220
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Sandal Cat "I've tried to keep out of this and I know I probably should but until everything is in the open I think people should leave James alone as some of the criticisms levied against him and his family are just not true.

Some on here want to be Judge, Jury and Executioner without any evidence.

All I'm saying is please leave the Guy alone and when the issue the Club is facing has been resolved then think again.'"


There is no putting this problem to one side. The bad feeling towards Elston is at the point were his presence at the club will be a major factor in fans not buying a season ticket.

The guy went on radio and blatantly lied to us all. He made a complete fool of everybody connected to the club. The spin was clearly an attempt to boost ST sales before the end of August deadline. If had any integrity he would resign with immediate effect.

RankPostsTeam
International Star54No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2014Dec 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: asmadasa "Thanks for your input James! icon_lol.gif
Seriously I think most fans are just sick of the serial mis-management of the club year in year out, going from one financial crisis to another with the fans expected to bail the club out when those in the know like Elston have come out with mis-truths in the media yet remain at the club seemingly on the pay roll.
A city the size of Wakefield with a long tradition of rugby league (as well as the only professional sports club in the city) in the heartland of the game should have a strong and secure club but businessman come and go creating the roller coaster experience albeit more lows than highs. icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:[/quot


You hit nail on head it getting too regular now it's getting hard to keep going us fans are constantly been s##t on and sandal cat I won't leave Elston alone he should GO

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1253
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: deeHell "There is no putting this problem to one side. The bad feeling towards Elston is at the point were his presence at the club will be a major factor in fans not buying a season ticket.

The guy went on radio and blatantly lied to us all. He made a complete fool of everybody connected to the club. The spin was clearly an attempt to boost ST sales before the end of August deadline. If had any integrity he would resign with immediate effect.'"



Or any serious investors (who may or may not be out there), I am pretty sure will not touch wakefield with a barge pole while ever they feel they are handing money over to the same guy who has twice taken the club to the brink of extinction.

Business is built on confidence in people and his credibility is shot!

If there is something else behind the story, then it needs to come out ASAP because otherwise it looks like the new broom ave failed to remove the problem.

Also if this scenario is not of elstons making , then the real culprit should go. Someone was and is responsible.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2691No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2022Oct 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: PopTart "Not sure whether that is capability or interest or integrity
'"

I would go with capability and integrity. Signing players on 3 year deals with no coach in place, that's crazy. Slagging players off in the hospitality area against Hemel.
You didn't see Bradford signing a load of their players on long deals, only probably Whitehead and Bateman. They have done it twelve months at a time and quite a few of them have only signed twelve month deals for next year.
Bradford will be back in the 8 in a couple of years, if not next year as they are looking to improve their squad by not over committing to the current players.
For me that's how you progress and don't get in the shumfing!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach27No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2020Jan 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



People need to remember that if it wasn't for James the club would have folded two years ago but he fought on and found glover, the guy you all thought was our saviour! James is still their and facing the music. Glover is conveniently on a bike ride. Life is constantly a roller coaster ride for us fans but I can't see how anyone could have envisaged all these debts from the previous regime still coming to haunt us and the man who said he didn't need our money peddle off so quickly. Glover must have given James the permission and assurances to spend the money and now it's biting us. Chairman spending club money and leaving sounds familiar. At least carter appears abut more realistic. And to be fair what have we lost so far? Oh yes a wizard who couldn't cast a spell without Sykes reading him his spells! Hard times ahead but let's pull together and we can get through this. Keep fighting amongst ourselves and we look like Salford mid season when they have the oap players crocked and the thugs banned and cockroach realises noble is crap. Really in the mire

51 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
51 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


9.912109375:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2611
17s
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
22s
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
34s
Film game
karetaker
5766
38s
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
56s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Theeaststand
4048
1m
Salford
Smiffy27
59
1m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
2m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
2m
Transfer Talk V5
Seth
517
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,185 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2611
17s
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
22s
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
34s
Film game
karetaker
5766
38s
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
56s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Theeaststand
4048
1m
Salford
Smiffy27
59
1m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
2m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
2m
Transfer Talk V5
Seth
517
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!