Yeah right.

the only way is up etc etc

I have no answer to that, its seems i have no idea at all and should never have tried to offer any explanation for the seasons ups and downs, its quite cleary all black and white.

Grow up Al.

Its a forum for discussion......

So if we did not need Jeffries who were you thinking of playing at stand off then?

Looking at his post I'd say he was thinking of Morro as stand off, to be fair he did ok whilst playing there for Bradford when called upon.

don't let them wear you down mate, don't be bullied. they are not interested in reasoned duscussion. they just keep saying the same old thing "kear out" hoping they can attract as many to their band wagon as possible. it takes more ba.ls to stick to your guns than to run with the baying pack. kear showed his worth last season in more ways than one.i am sure he has got the ba.ls to see this lot off. probably the same ones that not too long ago were singing his praises. none of these rl guru's or super coaches seem to have any answers other than "we're not going to watch till they win, we are taking our ball home "

NO.


We have discussed this and we don't agree, no point going around in circles on this one.

I would say...

is it Kears fault that the club have suffered from decades of neglect and poor investment?

is it Kears fault that we are seen a s a selling club that values its players only as financial assets?

is it Kears fault that we are playing in an outdated stadium which had its best features ripped out during the 1970's?

is it Kears fault that the club are little more than a family run corner shop business?

is it Kears fault that junior players see playing for wakefield as a stepping stone to a larger and more glamerous club?

is it Kears fault that the club has become the resting place for third grade Australian and New Zealand players (there are some exceptions to this rule)

is it Kears fault that Belle vue is situated in one of the most run down and derelict areas a city could wish to have?

is it Kears fault that top class UK players look at the facilities the club has by comparison to others and laughs....

is it Kears fault that we have a second rate commercial set up, selling rubbish to people who dont want it?


Having done a couple of sponsorship deals with the club I soon learned not to invite my valuesd customers to the events... taking them to belle vue was often seen as an insult, many were afraid to park their cars at the ground.... it was my love of the club which made me spend the money.... I lost clients (2 in total) bacause of this rather than gained them!


a train wreck has more than one cause, and by attacking Kear you are attacking the symptom not the ailment!

Absolutely spot on.

In my opinion, everything you've described will continue until Ted and his various hangers-on are removed from the club. We're run by amateurs and that culture permeates everything about WTW.

another Kear out thread.

We all know where we stand and we have covered it a million times. Its all down to the board.

Totally agree mate.

As for the original poster, Cool4Kats, FFS get a grip. Those of us in the Kear Out Brigade (as you call it) have done nothing but provided reasoned arguments as to why he should go. There have also been suggestions as to who might come in and coach etc...

Whilst the only reason those in the keep Kear brigade can come up with, is there's no one better !!! Anybody who has seen the teams performances over the last couple of months, would have difficulty convincing me that anyone could do any worse.

My loyalty is to the entity Wakefield Trinity and not to the coach. We are in the most crucial stage of our history and Kears actions have destabilised us no end. I keep hearing people say he is one of the only good things about the club and a key part of our franchise application credibility - well sorry but thats garbage - everyone in RL knows he wants out - so the fact we still have him in place IMO actually damages our application (particularly as the by products of his continued employment are gash performances and reduced attendances).

It takes balls to make a decision for the better of the club, its actually far easier to look back to what Kears done in the past and maintain the status quo.

Kear has my thanks for what he has done in the past, but professional sport is based on the here and now and he just isn't cutting it anymore.

As for the pathetic comment about coaching gurus etc..., I don't profess to be a coaching guru, but the sad fact is that if I as a spectator can see where the problems in the teams performances and tactics lie, why the hell can't the professional coaching team that have made a living out of it!!!

It is very difficult to try and argue with your reasoning if I were a Kear in member, as the last few months' will add weight to your points of view. The only reservations I have with Kear out is who will we replace him with. Del boy and Rodney had the chance a month ago, but the only thing they could see as with Danny Brough was a nice little earner, if they do it now it will cost us and if they pick somebody what isnt up to it then we will be paying double for the same rubbish, the only consolation in that is Del and Rod would be looking for somebody on the cheap so it maybe wouldnt be that expensive. Tried to stay positive but the reasoned arguments put down by the Kear out members (and I dont mean the compulsive whingers) far outway any counter claims for him to stay by the Kear in members. Clean sweep through the club for me and that includes some of the drama queens on here as well.

Why does Kear want out though? Does he think that WTW will not get a franchise spot after next season?
The rumours re: Tronc that I heard were that he wanted to go home because the digs the club gave him were awful and they had trouble remembering to pay his wages. That's not Kear's fault.
I'm not Kear's biggest fan, he was a bad coach for Huddersfield. But he seemed to click with Wakefield, something must have happened to change that?