Absolutely correct, based on the actual rules of the game, and ignoring the new "latitude rule".

I agree with the "just get on with it" rule, as long as none of the players in an offside position have any influence on the play.

Moore, with his back to the defence and returning to the mark, has no influence on the play (and if the ball were passed to him in this position, it would hardly constitute an advantage to Wakefield, as he would have to turn on receiving the ball before he could make ground. It would also be a forward pass, of course).

Buderus, playing the ball a yard forward of the mark, gains an advantage for the 1st receiver.

As for the potential for offside, that applies to both teams, as the images clearly show.

Bottom line is, we lost. I'm sure you could pick loads of other incidents from the game that contributed to the outcome too. It's sad for us, but the result and the performance were a hell of a lot better than most of us expected, so take comfort from that.

As I have posted before, I only watched the game live, have not watched it again and the only other reference I have are your screen shot stills but I did see Moore as being off-side at the time (which while being tight, I think we agree he probably was?) and missed Buderus being in front of the line. I don't think Alibert was being inconsistent (as several people state), which to me implies he saw and decided not to bring back Buderus, yet had early decided to bring back Wakefield for Moore not been back on-side, but that he just completely missed Buderus being in front of the 20 altogether! I made exactly the same mistakes as him and that is all I think it was, a mistake!

I think the stats probably tell the story in the end, as they often do, and if you look at tvoc's opta stats that he posts (for this and every Rhinos games) I think you will see why - [urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=17&t=455376[/url

The stats are very similar and quite tight but Leeds, in the end, made more yards over more carries (although a slightly lower average per carry) yet made more tackles, had the same number of errors and of course scored 6 to Wakey's 5 tries. Yes, you ended up on the wrong side of the penalty count and might not have really deserved to, but that is the story for me and explains why you were narrowly beaten.

I am not arguing with you but you can dress up statistics however you like, and therefore should not be the fundamental "story" argument to your case.

Can we just let this lie now, not directing at you IA but how many days has it been we know we lost, we also think we didn't deserve to being in front on the scoreboard for 78mins might help our case. Leeds fans think they deserve to win as they scored more points over 80 minutes the name of the game, but wakefield fans might think some factors conspired against us.

ATEOTD both sets of fans are going around in circles, furthermore each party should accept, believe their own view as they are not to be influenced by the other side's point.

Thats all I have to say on the matter.

your just a bigoted trogg

Where's the "porksters" Mutley and Snowie now, offside then a touch

I'm to the far left hand side behind the sticks, well on side


your worse than my dog he won't let go of the bone either,
week off for us

that's in the past

I dont sit on here 24/7 to reply, sorry for being late

IMO no he's not but i'll change that later ta.

Love that shot of the Wakey play. You can clearly see the pale white line a yard further forward, specially marked for Leeds... The "line of latitude", as it's known in rugby league circles...






Can we kill this now? We won't get the points, regardless

Yep i have done