Been walking to the ground from St.Catherines street end for most of the 30 years I have been to Trin.
The problem with rubbish was long before the properties were rented out.
Also if you walk down the backs, it's got a bit better, no mattresses propped up against walls and down the bottom end, the pavement and walls are pretty new.

Pointless sending road cleaners down St Catherine St Vastman because they couldn't do their job owing to all the parked cars preventing the gutters from being cleaned.

As others have already stated its a complex issue when areas of the community become really run down which in turn affects businesses such as Trinity. I'm not sure it's about a little bit of enforcement, do those that live in the area complain to the council or their local councillors about these issues, probably not.

I've only followed Trinity for about 35 years and in my time it's always been the same on the walk to the ground, not great but I've walked through rougher areas in my time and it's the experience of watching Trinity that sadly I look forward to.

It probably needs a Community Safety partnership approach between representatives of the local community, the club, the supporters, other local businesses, the local M P, councillors and the council itself. But is the desire there for all these partners to want to affect change?

We've gone a long way from Vasty's original post.
Let's leave the Lonely Planet guide to Fev alone for a while.

So basically its ok for you to bump your gums and nobody else.

you know I'm not a snob, but there a difference to see household litter roaming the streets than in a bin just pure lazy to me

now its funny you said that because the day I was walking the street they was on the street day or too later and still the same

At the risk of falling foul of poptart's general warning, let me just say that a couple of weeks before Xmas you commented on a thread about the state of decay in Bellevue and Agbrigg, you have now reinforced the point in this thread making the same accusations, which suggests to me a labouring of the point. I myself don't have a point to make but but imo think you are wrong in your condemnation of the area just to highlight what you believe is in the best interest of the club to move to NM.

I don't like making comparisons but will make an exception here, I'm sure you've been to that paradise known as Headingley, their none parking facilities are far worse than ours and their street parking is on a much bigger scale than ours, the area is famous for the hundreds and hundreds of students all packed liked sardines into bedsits and multi occupancy flats, you know when you come across them because every house has the trade mark mattress fridge freezer or 3 piece sweet adorning the front garden yet only one dustbin for a building with up to half a dozen flats in it resulting in household waste piled on top of it, having said all that I'll make my point which is the one I made to you earlier Leeds Rhino's have no problem at all in finding sponsorship, corporate or any other despite all it's anti social problems, could that be I wonder because of the way the club has been professionally handled, not to mention the success it's had on the field, I don't have a problem with you wanting a new ground at NM, but please base your argument on it's merits.

I think you'll find that there is a "sponsors" car park with ample match day parking for that elite bunch at headingley

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How is it snobbery to state facts. It is a fact that Agbrigg is a dump, there's no shying away from it. There are several other places just as bad - Knottingley, Seacroft, and Featherstone isn't that much better.

As for the stadium, I went in Sunday but I felt no envy. Location wise it is awful - there being only one main road out of it. The pitch is a on a slope. The turnstiles were farcical. They may have more seats than Us buts that's about it - and they nicked them from a run down football club.

I tend to agree with Willzay - they've done a decent job of cobbling the place together, but it's hardly paradise; it serves their purpose in terms of where they are now, but it's still a dump. We should aspire to much more.

With regard to the deprivation of Agbrigg - never fear - the Tories announced a few days ago that Lord Heseltine is to be brought back from the dead to lead a massive project to knock down and rebuild all the grotty housing estates in England; I'm sure it won't only focus on high rise estates in London and the South East, so we in the provinces will definitely get our fair share...

You call it condemning, I call it commenting. It is what it is, however it got that way.

As for NM, I have said as much as I can on here.

And Leeds Rhinos have 2 reasonable car parks, albeit Joe Bloggs here has to walk half a mile!

I don't have a problem with staying at BV - done properly - but I believe a new stadium would be easier and cheaper to build and would provide more commercial opportunities.