Webster 100% needs to go. Worse run in 25 years taken most of excitement out of the clubwith his garbage interviews and states he does not want to try until last playoffs. Shocking we are in dire straights.

Yes I meant exactly what I said. It's not sustainable and I think it needs to drop to a level that more suits it's income streams. I have no idea why your looking for some sort of hidden meaning in my posts. As for do we deserve to be relegated, yes. Trinity have been a disgrace for the last 2 months, and have poor for much of the time they have been in SL. The only time we had a reasonable period of stability with relatively decent on field results was when we sold the ground and lived off a portion of the proceeds for a number of years.

has he gone yet ?

I'm not looking into your post for hidden meanings, I simply take exception to your comment that we deserve to be relegated because we are not fortunate to have the finances afforded to other clubs. Had we had the finances we would have our own training facilities better coaches and back up staff, our juniors would be getting one to one training excelling their progress and so on and so on but we haven't as been identified by most on here our problem lies mainly with the coach and conditioner, so Carter made a mistake does that mean we deserve to be relegated, because of mistakes that have been made, should the long suffering fans be made to watch championship rugby just because you think it's what we deserve, you really ought to be ashamed of yourself, but then if you think it makes you look cool and interlectual carry spouting your rhetoric.

If we finish bottom and then lose out in the middle 8's then we deserve to be relegated, end of. The lack of finances, ground situation, poor decision making at the top, etc along with the poor coaching and conditioning will have all contributed to us being in that position. We will ultimately end up where we deserve to be.

That's the point. We don't have the finances to be any better because we don't have the support to fund/build the club in the absence of a rich backer. We struggle because so few people give a sht about the club. Richardson, Glover Carter? It makes no difference. Coaches come and go. Trinity still struggle.

There's nothing cool about it. Just pragmatism. We don't have the support to fund a super league team.

Someone far wiser than me said recently "It is not the mistakes you make, it is how you respond to them that matters."

If, as the common view appears to be that Carter made a mistake in giving Webster a 3 year deal then I don't have visibility of him currently taking action to correct this mistake.

As I see it, if nothing changes we will go down. Rent will become a larger burden than it is now since our income will be less. As a result we will not be able to afford a squad or coaching staff to make a team competitive enough to be pushing to get back into Super League. I fear an irreversible downward spiral until there is a significant injection of finances into the club.

There is a risk of avoiding this scenario if significant action is taken now. I genuinely think that on paper this squad is good enough to earn the right to remain in Super League. On current performances and direction they are barely worth of mid-level in the Championship.

In terms of responding to mistakes I think the timing of the response is also crucial. The response needs to be now or it will be too late to gel the team under new leadership.

What ever the outcome at the end of the season, whether we finish bottom of the middle 8 or we lose the play off and we are relegated then we will get what we deserve, we've never had the finances to compete for a long time now but Iv'e never heard anybody say before that we don't deserve to be where we are, it's been a continual struggle year on year and I can't see anything changing any time soon, but should we survive relegation at the end of the season ought we to say to the RFL let Leigh or Bradford in because we're skint and don't deserve our place in #sooperdooperleague I personally don't think so and until we are relegated, we like other clubs before us what have suffered financial difficulties reserve the right to our place on merit.

Webster obviously can't motivate this team, how on earth does he expect to turn up for the Middle 8 games and turn them into a team to beat Leigh etc overnight?

Still no comment from the club.

Also I see no match report from last night or one from the Saints match (am I missing that somewhere). I guess they are too embarrassed to show them now?

I guess they'll remove the up to date league table soon as well. Didn't someone talk about ostriches recently?

Bit of reality check Gents.
James Webster is an honest guy, but a paid workman like most of us.

If you or your Board no longer require his services, pay his contact off and employ Agar or someone who can work miracles with your squad.
I suggest Daryl Powell, oh hold on Cas have signed him for 5 years?

Both Cas and Wakefield turned Hull KR over own their own muck. It's a tough league for the also rans.

Other clubs apologies for performances like we endure each week. What do we do ignore it, close ranks and pretend it never happened. The chairman stops tweeting, the web site goes into stand by mode and Webster finds further positives.
I hate to point out the obvious but there are no positives when playing against the team with the second worst defence we score 6 points and once again concede over 40. I think we all know he is going nowhere and our chairman does not have what it takes to get rid of him. I for one will not be wasting my money going on Sunday and I expect many others will do the same.

My family won't be going until there is a change. I'd rather donate my money to a charity than waste it on suffering the horrible performances of Trinity...

Can it be right loaning out the best of our home grown young talent- Annakin and then loaning journey man from Widnes. Dont get it Cant use injury's as an excuse.