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Quote: charlie63wildcat "I agree totally appalling. I was aghast at the appeal. My Hull supporting mate even chucked money in at their game at the KC; I told him he was nuts. A failing sports club is NOT A CHARITY. It was a disgusting abuse of people's good will and love for their club and, as suspected, was also a waste of time. Shame on all concerned and the RFL for allowing it to happen.'"


Well said Charlie.
What gets me is the fact that they asked their fans (and the wider rugby league public) to donate cash to save tham and with a bit more honesty, instead of wishful thinking, this cash could have been used to breathe life into the "new" Bulls, but now it is lost and in the longer term this will damage their efforts to gain support .

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Quote: supercat "They had ten days to come up with a buyer. If i was Caisley i would wait 5 days to see if anyone comes forward. If no one comes forward then i would look at selling as many players as possible to satisfy administrators then take over the club and start again. Think it was Guilfoyle who said on radio that the players wouldn't bring that much. I don't agree they have quite a number of players who are being well courted by several clubs. If Caisley works well with admin team i am sure they will be able to do deals to satisfy all parties. When we had players sold by admin team it was a different situation Glover didn't have control of the club and therefore couldn't have any say on what happened. Maybe once this is done and a big chunk of debt is paid off it might trigger some one to come forward with less outlay of money to be risked again.'"


A the 10 days count down, they will be more inclined to sell their top players, indeed it will become a necessesity, however, this means that maybe Leeds, Wigan, Warrington and Hull will be the destination for these players as these few clubs are the only ones with significant cash at their disposal..

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Quote: wrencat1873 "A the 10 days count down, they will be more inclined to sell their top players,...'"


By 10 days, if no buyer is found, all the players will be free agents anyway - no fees to pay.

This is why players get sold for less than their market worth in these situations - the administrator will want to realise whatevercash he can.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "A the 10 days count down, they will be more inclined to sell their top players, indeed it will become a necessesity, however, this means that maybe Leeds, Wigan, Warrington and Hull will be the destination for these players as these few clubs are the only ones with significant cash at their disposal..'"


AFAIK those clubs must be spending the full cap. I wonder if tyhe RFL will let them breach the cap to sign these players eusa_think.gif

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Quote: Slugger McBatt "I suppose partially correct, if you mean the Crusaders, because of course the RFL did identify the problems and twisted their arms to drop out.'"


I don't know that they did twist their arms to drop out - the opposite could easily be true.

Either way, the impact of their act or omission was that our club was left with an unreasonably short window in which to prepare for SL; in real terms, we had less time than Widnes to prepare for the 2012 season and we're now seeing the results of that - fail to plan, plan to fail and all that shiz.

If the RFL are capable of learning any lessons from the past 12 months or so, perhaps the most important one is that they should act more quickly when a club is known to be failing? If they'd been more robust with Bradford when the opportunities arose (first, when they didn't make any payments on their 400k loan and latterly, when they bought the lease to keep them afloat and subsequently lied about why they'd done it; and that's not even mentioning the long contracts handed out to players when they knew they were heading for a financial iceberg) then perhaps those members of the RL community, including the supporters, wouldn't now be 500k worse off with nothing to show for it? The attendant loss of goodwill is difficult to quantify, but a quick scan of RL Fans is enough to tell you that fans of other clubs are finding it difficult to be sympathetic to a club that appears to have been the author of its own misfortune.

The attitude at Red Hall seems to be one of preserving at all costs the illusion that SL is an umitigated success; in my view, they need to be more organisationally mature and understand that the failure of a member club doesn't necessarily mean that their system has failed - they'd get more respect for outing and dealing with failures consistently and with fairness. That might also have the fringe benefit of encouraging clubs to be more open and honest with them and applying more financial rigour to their operations - if they knew that financial improprieties would result in severe penalties, maybe they'd act more sensibly to avoid them?

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The rfl have announced that any Tom, dick or harry who runs the club can fufil the fixtures until the end of the season, seems quite a bizzare thing to do....

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Quote: Wakefield No 1 "The rfl have announced that any Tom, dick or harry who runs the club can fufil the fixtures until the end of the season, seems quite a bizzare thing to do....'"


I don't think they've thought it through.

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Super League bosses will allow Bradford Bulls to finish the season as a new company even if the club goes into liquidation in the coming weeks.
This would avoid a scenario in which results from this year have to be expunged due to the club folding.
The club's licence would then be reviewed at the end of the season.
A Rugby Football League spokesman said: "We are working with the administrators to help Bradford Bulls out of administration."
The four-time Super League champions are ninth in the table with nine games left to play in the regular season.


Found this on the BBC site, what does it mean, will they have points deducted for going into administration or not?

If not it seems a bit unfair that Crusaders and WTW did when they went into admin? I'm confused.

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Points will still be deducted as normal. There doing this to save loads of work and plus avoid arguments with other teams that have either played or not played yet and it would make a mess of this years competition. This way the actual playing side of things is not affected.

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Would the potential buyer have to go through the RFL's 'fit and proper person' test as Andrew Glover did?

Surely this would rule out any of the previous Bradford directors from buying back the club, after the mess they have made.

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I would prefer it if the RFL came out and explained how a club who they graded as a B 6 months ago, can be in this position!

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Quote: drdnght "Would the potential buyer have to go through the RFL's 'fit and proper person' test as Andrew Glover did?

Surely this would rule out any of the previous Bradford directors from buying back the club, after the mess they have made.'"


At this stage they would probably rubber stamp Dick Turpin, if he promised to see the season through.
The longer term is of course a different matter.

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Quote: "The boss of a catering firm which has been providing corporate hospitality at Odsal Stadium has also told the T&A that he is owed around £20,000 by the club for work which goes back to March. Trevor Landsdall, of County Caterers Special Events, said it had been continuing to provide pink champagne, canapes and a choice menu during home games and special dinners, but had insisted on being paid up front.

“We are still owed around £20,000 from earlier though,” he said. “It will hit us quite hard if we don’t get paid.

“We have had to stand staff wages and pay our suppliers.”

The company, which is based in Wakefield, has previously lost out when Wakefield Trinity Wildcats and Bradford City Football Club went into administration.

In addition the Bulls’ cheerleaders have not been paid. Robyn Morrison, who runs Panache, the cheerschool which trains the Bullettes, said the 12 girls had previously performed at five or six home games without pay before reluctantly deciding to take on an alternative paying job the day of the recent Wakefield Trinity clash.

“It’s not just about the money for us,” she said. “We’ve been helping to raise funds for the club and it would be devastating for the Bullettes if the club were to go into liquidation.”'"

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Interesting Wakefield aspect to the Bradford problems..

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I cannot believe how deluded the Bulls fans are and how adverse they are to any kind of critisism icon_rolleyes.gif
It's like the blind leading the bling on their forum d040.gif

I think my next post on there will be "I Told You So" a010.gif

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We did tell them so. That's the problem. They were too pig headed to listen to people who'd been in the same situation 12 months ago!

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