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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"Or just for you “ you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time”
These are the words of Lincoln which are still applicable to Johnson. I am afraid you fall into the second scenario judging by your previous posts.'"
Actually, I think yours was the correct quote, Scarlet.
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| It is in respect of Lincoln
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| World Health Organisation, 6 March: "80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic."
Matt Hancock, 22 April one of the very significant challenges of the virus.”
Boris Johnson, PMQs, 8 July,: "one thing nobody knew early on during this pandemic is that the virus was being passed on asymptomatically".
The one thing you have to do with Johnson is pay attention, and look back at what has already been said. If you do, you'll see how big a liar he is.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Nothing to do with the Government setting a pI$$ poor example of adhering to the lockdown rules then?
I’m sure if Cummings can get away with “going for a drive to test his eyesight”, then I’m sure people are now allowed to protest against systematic racism?'"
It wasn't just government setting "p'ss poor example" there were plenty of others (if not more)on the other side of the political divide, but it doesn't suit a leftist view to state this , does it Willzay
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| The problem is when you are the person setting the rules the onus is that you actually follow them or it could be seen by many in the population as a kick in the teeth. This is then followed by a SAGE advisor also breaking the rules with his lady friend. The latter at least showed some guilt by resigning whilst the former came up with the lamest excuse they could come up with after falling to realise the effects of what he did or probably he did not care because Johnson would back him regardless.
With power comes responsibility unfortunately the current government and their advisors do not seem to understand this and let’s not even go to the situation of Robert Jenrick who appear to ignore all expectations that come with the job.
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| Quote King Street Cat="King Street Cat"World Health Organisation, 6 March: "80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic."
Matt Hancock, 22 April: “Asymptomatic transmission does occur [and is one of the very significant challenges of the virus.”
Boris Johnson, PMQs, 8 July,: "one thing nobody knew early on during this pandemic is that the virus was being passed on asymptomatically".
The one thing you have to do with Johnson is pay attention, and look back at what has already been said. If you do, you'll see how big a liar he is.'"
In every PMQ he featured he has lied and even when pointed out his defence is to deny it. It is then looked into and surprise surprise he did lie but continues to deny the facts much like his mentor Trump. I have also noticed that regardless of the topic of Starmer’s final question he has a pre prepared statement knowing that he will not be picked up on it.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"In every PMQ he featured he has lied and even when pointed out his defence is to deny it. It is then looked into and surprise surprise he did lie but continues to deny the facts much like his mentor Trump. I have also noticed that regardless of the topic of Starmer’s final question he has a pre prepared statement knowing that he will not be picked up on it.'"
There should be repercussions for lying in the House of Commons. But that would mean everyone in the Tory Cabinet but Sunak resigning/being sacked.
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| It’d also be handy to have a Speaker with a backbone.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"It’d also be handy to have a Speaker with a backbone.'"
Be handy if that excuse of a Labour leader had a backbone too what a waste of space he is and as for the shodow chancellor I won't even go there the whole lot bar one or two are a complete shambles.
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| Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Be handy if that excuse of a Labour leader had a backbone too what a waste of space he is and as for the shodow chancellor I won't even go there the whole lot bar one or two are a complete shambles.'"
A little touchy, you do realise how dangerous Johnson is because of his ineptitude and complete lack of ability to run a country. If not ask the families of those who have died unnecessarily because of this or the residents of Tower Hamlets who missed out on 35 million pounds because of the questionable action of a minister.
The job of the opposition is to challenge and question the action of the government where necessary and I guess what you don’t like is that Starmer is finding this quite easy to do with Johnson whose style does not work against him.
If I was you I would fallback on the usual it would be worse under Labour rather than pick fault with someone who is more popular than the current incumbent.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"A little touchy, you do realise how dangerous Johnson is because of his ineptitude and complete lack of ability to run a country. If not ask the families of those who have died unnecessarily because of this or the residents of Tower Hamlets who missed out on 35 million pounds because of the questionable action of a minister.
The job of the opposition is to challenge and question the action of the government where necessary and I guess what you don’t like is that Starmer is finding this quite easy to do with Johnson whose style does not work against him.
If I was you I would fallback on the usual it would be worse under Labour rather than pick fault with someone who is more popular than the current incumbent.'"
Erm no I have experience of Starmer from a previous life I wouldn't pay him in washers as time goes on you will see. I have personal experience of a family loss as I have previously pointed out on this thread so don't try and use that one I have my views on this and like many of the deaths it was something very difficult to prevent.
If you think Starmer is holding Boris to account then you may not have been subjected to intense performance management and scrutiny again something I have many years of experience.
They have lots of questions which is right and proper but they have no solutions at the moment they are fully paid up members of the Hindsight Regiment.
Starmer an ex barrister should do much better in his forensic questioning but he probably moved to politics because he wasn't very good he was even worse at CPS and he is no better now. As for the shadow chancellor I don't think I seen a poorer performer when in the spot light.
I was a Labour voter most of my life I cannot bring myself to move in their direction anymore it's become a joke as for the Tories they have maximised an opportunity out of a situation where they had one of the worst leaders in history in May preceded by the idiot Cameron. Sadly Labour went too far to the left abandoned their working class values in my opinion and chose an activist as a leader which turned into a disaster did it not? Leaving a clear run for Boris who you have no time for but it is what it is. The Labour party will take years to recover and it will not be soon with your mate in charge!
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